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4. Temmuz 2004, 07:21:11
bwildman 
duh

4. Temmuz 2004, 07:17:40
bwildman 
Konu: Re:
well Ed...being on a clowns wages...not a heck of a lot! LOL:)
how about a one year rook membership donated to the boost a pawn fellowship?

4. Temmuz 2004, 07:01:46
bwildman 
ohhhh come now Ed..
you can admit it...everyone will understand...no need to make excuses..make silly little formula's..
your........
SCARED

4. Temmuz 2004, 06:47:23
bwildman 
bwildman (4. Temmuz 2004, 06:48:26) tarafından düzenlendi
maybe so...least he's not scared

4. Temmuz 2004, 06:41:46
danoschek 
Konu: yes
danoschek (4. Temmuz 2004, 06:42:00) tarafından düzenlendi
taking advantage of unfinished games is a known
approach as well.

4. Temmuz 2004, 06:15:16
bwildman 
cool...its on its way,and good luck:)

4. Temmuz 2004, 06:11:42
Kevin 
lol. Sure, invite me if you like :-)

4. Temmuz 2004, 06:08:17
bwildman 
how bout a game?
Eds scared! LOL:)

4. Temmuz 2004, 06:01:35
Kevin 
Well - let's just say I know the rules :-)

4. Temmuz 2004, 05:59:16
bwildman 
Kevin,are you a gothic chess player?

4. Temmuz 2004, 05:43:41
Kevin 
Based on that logic, you have the same chances to win against anyone, including someone else with a single loss and 5,000,000 wins.

4. Temmuz 2004, 02:11:45
ughaibu 
Must be some kind of BK2 armistace that reinstated Bagpuss as moderator.

4. Temmuz 2004, 01:35:42
Stevie 
Konu: wow
Gothic is moderator here again.
And I can post LMAO

4. Temmuz 2004, 01:25:50
ughaibu 
Konu: GothicInventor
I'll take that as an apology, short of claiming that your account's been "hacked" it's the closest you get to grace.

4. Temmuz 2004, 01:24:11
bwildman 
Konu: anyone care to shoot a fish in a barrel?
I am open to invites :)
Eds too scared. LOL:)

4. Temmuz 2004, 01:17:24
danoschek 
Konu: Well my note to Fencer is written
I renewed my suggestion that we please may have
a Gothic Chess Discussion Board ... it's about time ~*~

4. Temmuz 2004, 01:06:57
ughaibu 
Konu: GothicInventor
Are you suggesting that I'm not the inventor of a game published in an international games dedicated magazine? If you should be incorrect in that assumption is your suggestion that the discretion of that magazine's publishers is so paucitive as to refute any hint of "talent" for game design that I might possess?

4. Temmuz 2004, 00:51:43
bwildman 
this fish shoots back.If your afraid...well...thats ok.

4. Temmuz 2004, 00:39:02
danoschek 
Konu: On public boards another formula perhaps could be of interest also
It's resembles the (in)famous Poop-It Factor.

And is calculated by

Ideas, (furtherly refered to as Id (pronounce german, It) divided by
Publications, furtherly refered to as Pub (pronouce german, Poop)
times four, divided by the amount of wind-directions.

The unit is Id/Pub thus, but as commonly known,
in some cases milliIt per kiloPoop might be handier.

Perhaps a good feature for user profiles. ~*~

4. Temmuz 2004, 00:20:52
bwildman 
Konu: Re: besides Ed
well...had I finished all those games...I would agree.Its still an intangible speculation,so the only true way to find out is to play me. SKEEEEERD?

4. Temmuz 2004, 00:03:02
bwildman 
Konu: besides Ed
we all know theres a moon...its a tangible.But whos to say..if you and I were to ever play..that maybe you'd have a bad hair day...and I might just win? Thats entirely possible.The fact that your BKR is vastly higher than mine,only makes the speculation that you will beat me,an intangible one.:)

3. Temmuz 2004, 23:59:19
Caissus 
Konu: BuilderQ
Caissus (4. Temmuz 2004, 00:00:02) tarafından düzenlendi
That is not a miracle,because not very strong chessplayers are playing here.Even so it is only a question of time ..

3. Temmuz 2004, 23:51:29
bwildman 
wouldnt know...never played him.

3. Temmuz 2004, 23:46:51
BuilderQ 
Maybe we should be embarrassed that none of us can beat GothicInventor. :)

3. Temmuz 2004, 23:48:39
bwildman 
LMAO@ Ed. I bet the talented individual who invented the mousetrap,is also a milionaire?

3. Temmuz 2004, 23:45:14
Grim Reaper 
Lucky for you that you are not that talented, so you don't have to worry about this.

3. Temmuz 2004, 23:40:05
ughaibu 
If I invented a game that I always won I'd be embarrassed, my opponents would think I'd factored in my personality.

1. Temmuz 2004, 19:03:19
BuilderQ 
The figurine notation is international. In the Settings section you can change the notation to show standard English (or Czech) letters for pieces.

1. Temmuz 2004, 06:14:13
bwildman 
Konu: Re: Gothic Cathedrals
LOL:) surely you jest:)

1. Temmuz 2004, 06:06:44
Purrdyn 
Konu: Gothic Cathedrals
neither :D

1. Temmuz 2004, 05:09:26
BuilderQ 
Oh, okay, I was just wondering if you had invented it too. :)

1. Temmuz 2004, 05:06:21
Grim Reaper 
Absolutely none, other than the common first adjective.

1. Temmuz 2004, 05:04:51
BuilderQ 
Konu: Gothic Checkers
Is there any connection between Gothic Chess and Gothic Checkers?

30. Haziran 2004, 19:53:16
tangram 
What is the quickest mate?
I have:
Bobes tangram 21. June 2004, 21:49:21
1. c3 g6
2. g3 h6
3. c2 h7
4. h3 i5
5. xi5 xc2
6. xc2 xc2

25. Haziran 2004, 20:12:03
bwildman 
Konu: 111
bowling gives a more suitable description of this #! :-)

25. Haziran 2004, 02:59:23
Greenknight 
Konu: Ratings: Gothic Chess vs Chess
Thanks, I was hoping they'd be a little closer to each other, but you're probably right.

25. Haziran 2004, 02:01:42
Grim Reaper 
Konu: Re: Ratings: Gothic Chess vs Chess
On average you will float in around 1500-1600 in USCF chess since there are so many "book players" out there.

I think the ratings on here are too high by 200-400 points on average.

25. Haziran 2004, 01:01:13
Greenknight 
Konu: Ratings: Gothic Chess vs Chess
I joined a chess club recently and am wondering what my chess rating will probably be in relation to my gothic rating. I stay in the low 1900's in gothic.

23. Haziran 2004, 03:24:25
LongJohn 
Konu: 42
but damn those mice are smart. Who would have guessed eh!!!

22. Haziran 2004, 21:53:45
juangrande 
Konu: Re: Caissius and Juan Grande
And when were you planning on telling me, Caissus? :-)

22. Haziran 2004, 21:26:02
Caissus 
Konu: Re: Caissius and Juan Grande
Amen ! I will tell you a secret now : We will marry soon! ;-)

22. Haziran 2004, 19:51:35
juangrande 
Konu: Re: Caissius and Juan Grande
Ed, I appreciate your compliment regarding my playing ability and am delighted that you have found any of my games worthy of archiving. I still have trouble with the suggestion that there might be cheating involved, though. I realize that I'm not the tournament director, but I would suggest simply awarding the prize to the winner as was promised at the outset. There's been no cheating. I fail even to see how a player could benefit by throwing a game in a winner-takes-all tournament.

Perhaps some background on my playing method would be illuminating. I almost never resort to analyzing over a board (electronic or physical); the most I allow myself is a sheet of paper to record moves to help me visualize the variations. This, of course, makes me more subject to the possibility of making an egregious blunder. My 11-move loss to Caissus was due to just such a blunder: Nothing more, nothing less.

22. Haziran 2004, 19:40:11
coan.net 
Konu: Re: Caissius and Juan Grande
Stats:
GothicInventor's Rating: 2403 (111-0-0)
Caissus Rating: 2218 (38-2-3)
jaungrande Rating: 1745 (67-2-39)

==================

Why Juan might play Gothic to the death in their matches, yet make mistakes in others for a quick end of game - well a lot of time for myself included, when I play some of the "best" people, I will study and study the board as much as possible. While with others, I'll take a quick look and make a move. I do that all the time in Spider Line4.... which usually leads me to make stupid mistakes against people who "statisticly" I should win against. So it could be that juangrande see's you as one of the better players, and brings out his best game against you.

====================

Anyway, in my opinion - With 111 wins, and 0 loses - if anyone can beat Gothic (or get a draw out of him), they desirve to win the tournament! :-)

22. Haziran 2004, 17:09:16
Caissus 
Konu: Re: Caissius and Juan Grande
Hm....,what have we here? Again a cheating?

16. Haziran 2004, 04:42:03
juangrande 
Konu: Re: Something fishy in the $250 tournament
Since my name was mentioned as someone who lost on time, I'll just mention that I simply got too busy and didn't manage to login within the time limit. $250 is not enough of an inducement for me drop the other irons I have in the fire, so to speak (and I suspect this to be the case for most members of this site). I apologize if my inaction aroused any suspicion, but it seems rather paranoid to attribute any of this to behind-the-scenes dealing. From a public relations point of view, threatening to withdraw the prize would seem to arouse more suspicion than short draw agreements and mass losses on time. Is $250 too much of a financial burden for the tournament organizer to bear? Perhaps this response is overboard as well; I apologize if anyone perceives it so. However, I honestly can't see why anyone would go to all the trouble to make deals with other players for a mere $250 ($25,000 would be a different story ...) and so I admit to being astounded that such suspicions would even be considered. Of course, it could just be that I'm naive...

15. Haziran 2004, 22:57:27
Greenknight 
Konu: Greenknight's First Gothic Chess Tourney
You're all invited to join in. Even those of you that like early draws :)

Aren't "grandmaster draws" when two people agree to draw early? I can't remember where I heard that phrase or whether I just made it up.

15. Haziran 2004, 09:14:12
ughaibu 
They agreed a draw because it fitted both their requirements, it's completely normal tournament strategy.

14. Haziran 2004, 21:57:19
Caissus 
Konu: Re: Something fishy in the $250 tournament
For me,I saw my position as a little bit bader and was satisfied as Black to have a draw in this game.Please ask Oliotto for his consideration himself.But as pawn he cannot post on this board.To your first question please ask the other players themselves.

14. Haziran 2004, 20:49:45
Caissus 
Konu: Re: Something fishy in the $250 tournament
Great thought: three players in a tournement and two of them agree to a draw to beat the third? That means,that they now play better against the third player?? Really,a great idea,really!.
Have you ever played another sport in your life than chess? I think no,because these are ideas of an only-chessplayer.Me,I´m also playing tennis in a team and such thoughts are very strange for me and can poison the gameculture completely!
For myself I can say I only think to the next game or the next round in a tournement! It is totally clear,that I fight in the next round against all opponents in the same way to win the title (and the prize)!

14. Haziran 2004, 16:52:49
Chessmaster1000 
Konu: Re: Something fishy in the $250 tournament
Yes it is not legal, but what about if one player offers a draw at move 6 for example, and the other accepts. HOW anyone can prove that both were agreed for a draw behind the scenes in order to make some profit from it? No one can prove it and since the rules allow you to offer a draw whenever you want it and your opponent has the right to accept it, i don't really see any illegal thing.

As for the players that stopped playing, yes it's strange and i would like to know the reason too. Was only one player that stopped playing or it was 2 or more?

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