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30. септември 2009, 20:00:12

gogul

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Относно: Nestlé dealing with Mugabes wife

Swiss foodmulti Nestlé takes milk from a dispossessed farm in Zimbabwe owned by Mugabes wife dispiting international sanctions. Nestlé, allocated in Switzerland feel not bound on EU and US sanctions against Mugabe, his family and his surrounding. Nestlé justifies it's engagement with the sorrow of the struggling population. The company "supports and respects international human rights". In vue of Mugabes ongoing terror and the robbing of 4500 white farmers an elusive claim.

Things like this, that's daily news in proper newspapers and over here we are used to know that. Money counts in these circles, it's for a sensitive public PR-machines get mobilised, there is no moral with Nestlé. These companies poach in foreign countries, this is big money Swiss. There are no philosophical or theological questions arising, the behaviour and output of companies of that kind is simply catastrophic. Just not for us, we seem to feel very good as rich..

30. септември 2009, 20:49:34

Mort

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Относно: Re: Nestlé dealing with Mugabes wife

gogul: It's an animal thing.. to feel good at being rich.. to coin Riddick

It's taken over from the self satisfaction of just doing things. As the robbing of white farmers.. They did the robbing first. You would expect some problem after being a slave race almost for years. Just as in South Africa.

Mugabe won't last too much longer, and I do expect a total 'no trade' will just force Mugabe into black market selling and buying. I don't feel that due to the nature of such economics it is a good thing in terms of helping the problem within that country.

1. октомври 2009, 01:20:41

Übergeek 바둑이

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Относно: Re: Nestlé dealing with Mugabes wife

(V):

> I do expect a total 'no trade' will just force Mugabe into black market selling and buying

It is just as Saddam Hussein. Sanctions brough great suffering to the people of Iraq. It is estimated that about 1 million people died because Iraq could not buy adequate food or medicine for its people. The Oil for Food Program was corrupt and instead of helping it was just reinforcing Saddam's power. Black marketeers made a killing in Iraq, just as they do in Africa now. Sanctions are a political and economic failure. Mugabe will stay there as long as the people he rules refuse to depose him. Using force to depose him would just turn that country into another Iraq, and nobody wants that.

1. октомври 2009, 09:23:11

Mort

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Относно: Re: Nestlé dealing with Mugabes wife

Übergeek 바둑이: I don't think they will try to depose him.. I hope not. The press and international attention the country is getting is more apt to end his rule. Plus the pressure as much on and by his African neighbours is more likely to get him off his throne.

1. октомври 2009, 09:47:50

Ferris Bueller

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Относно: Re: Nestlé dealing with Mugabes wife

(V): I doubt it. Despots like Mugabe manage to stay on there throwns regardless of outside pressure or how much their own people suffer.

1. октомври 2009, 11:12:58

Mort

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Относно: Re: Nestlé dealing with Mugabes wife

Ferris Bueller: True to a degree. But at the moment, he's getting bugged to show he's changing. Reports though say it's not him running the country.. he's losing his marbles... I believe If so then as a figurehead... what happens when he dies? Will the army be able to keep it together.

.. and when he does die.. will the other African states intervene??