Jim Dandy: Yes, i was not going to mention it, but the last few days, in fact since the Data Archiving it has been real bad at times.

I would of thought that would make it faster, like cleaning & defragging

Jim Dandy: I don't see any problems and I prepare an article which should be the ultimate answer to everyone, once and forever.

Fencer: Without getting into an old conversation, we are trying to be positive (well i am lol)

The site has been great for ages now, BUT since about the time of the Archive, i have a dramatic slowdown in brainking response time.
All other sites, well, the other 7 open in Tabs at present load pages between 1.07 and 3.61 seconds.
Brainking varies wildly though, i can get a games page load in from 1.7 secs which is great, however, any other pages seem to take anywhere from 4 to 20 secs

Just an annoying observation, what has started this again

MadMonkey: I wish mine would load in 20secs:( Im on the fastest connection speed I can be on and it is still slow....other sites are fine.

Bernice: You are wrong in both parts of your statement because 1) you don't have the fastest connection speed (it is obvious), 2) other sites are not fine. Time has come to accept it.

Fencer: Am I wrong in feeling that your state of the union will include lowered expectations regarding site speed?

Fencer: Im sorry....I didnt realize that you can see what I am connected to ....I HAVE THE FASTEST CONNECTION...that is available to me (ADSL).....and other sites ARE fine....you arent sitting where I am sitting and TIME HAS COME TO ACCEPT IT....yes you are right....ACCEPT that your site isnt the best there is, and other sites are faster.......
Jim Dandy:looks like it :)

MadMonkey:you are wrong of course LOL...he wont admit to failings..........

Bernice: I just want to make it clear to Fencer there is a problem somewhere and from EVERYTHING i can see the only place it happens is here

srnity: I wonder what the i.brainking thing i get as well is then ??

Bernice: Maybe the answer is throwing more coal in the fire,these internts are just a bunch of tubes,right?

Jim Dandy: Im not coming into that one HAHAH

Bernice: There is one thing which I absolutely don't understand (and I am definitely not the only one) - what are you still doing on BrainKing? Isn't is a good time to leave the site at last and find another one where they don't know you yet?

Fencer: because I love "giving it to ya" and watching you squirm LOL

You have become expert at it over the past 5-6 years

Fencer: I'm no psychologist,but people develop an attachment to sites,she's clearly not happy,but she deseves a degree of respect.

Jim Dandy: Maybe a translation of "respect" to Fencers language could be a good idea?

Jim Dandy: Every respectable person deserves a respect. Unfortunately it does not apply to Bernice. Hell, I have made this mistake again but sometimes I cannot resist.

Fencer:

p.s. Did you miss my question, brainking.com & i.brainking.com, what is the difference ?

MadMonkey: Sorry. The i.brainking.com server provides all images and the brainking.com is still the BrainKing as we know it - the HTML code and similar things.
Are there any particular images you have a problem with?

Fencer: ahhh thanks

No not really, i have the odd smiley that does not show itself, but shows as a group of a few pixels in a block, but apart from that all BK images are fine

Only problem i had yesterday was with the Alquerque board. I know it is large anyway, but for some reason the board once loaded, parts of it looked as if they were not loaded, if that makes sense. Like not completely there.
Is there no way to make smaller Alquerque, Jarmo and Ludo boards ? (yes i know, time lol)

MadMonkey: I noticed something similar with Alquerque and Jarmo boards as well. Every so often the site has been a bit slower, but not very much.

I wish someone knew the answer why it is only a problem for some people. I think knowing that answer would help a lot of people.

It makes sense that it isn't specifically a brainking problem, since not everyone is experiencing the same thing. To me, if it were, everyone would be having the exact same problems. (Or it makes sense to ME anyways.. lol)

I WOULD say that over the last couple of days, it is probably the more graphic intensive pages that have been a bit slower.

Fencer: and besides...I paid the money, Im entitled to service...or isnt service part of your user agreement?

Bernice: Obviously you are not smart enough to understand the simplest arguments. Which is, to my amusement, confirmed by your every post. Keep doing that.

Fencer: At least people know I mean what I say...unlike you....And "simple arguements" are for simple people...you are in your own company

Bernice: Better be a honest "Troll" than an a ...oooops!!!!!  cant say that!!

Andersp: LOL

Bernice: If you won't stop repeating the same complaints over and over again - will you at least stop shouting?

MadMonkey: My continuous and thorough tests say the average page generation time is about 0.1 - 0.3 seconds, and this is the result based on measurements from the last 6 months. Whatever happens OUTSIDE BrainKing, i.e. on the way to the user's web browser, is not (and cannot be) our problem. Our power ends at the outgoing port of our firewall.

Fencer: ok, as i said i am trying to be helpful

I sit here and watch all these messages (and more) appear lots of times in rapid succession while a page is loading:
waiting for brainking.com
reading data from brainking.com
waiting for i.brainking.com
connecting to i.brainking.com
connected to i.brainking.com
read brainking.com
transferring data from brainking.com (this stays and waits the longest)

and all this time the page is still loading, and Fasterfox counter is timing it.

How come with NO other site i have this problem, i never get to read those messages anywhere else as it happens so fast and the page, HOWEVER big it is loaded.

Again, i am trying to be helpful and giving you any information i think may help track the answer as i know i am not the only one, and like i said the site has been amazingly fast up until a few days ago

MadMonkey: Your post is meaningful and you will get the answer (hint, hint!). And, actually, you have answered yourself because you say that the delay happens at the "transferring data from brainking.com" status. Yes, transferring! Not a page generating, no waiting for a response, just transferring of the data containing the web page source. You describe the situation AFTER the page is sent from BrainKing to your browser, not BEFORE. Once again, that's what we cannot resolve because it's not technically possible.
There are always many different possibilities of network related problems which can cause this kind of a slowdown, including DNS lookup errors, browser memory leaks, international line overload, a glitch in ISP network switches, wrongly updated caches of proxy servers etc. I don't think it would make sense to list all of them.
As I have said, I want to post a detailed article to the blog soon. Be patient.

Fencer: LOL...and all these bad things only happens to Brain King's transfer?..you are too good Filip!!

Andersp: Yeah... And this slowness is applied to the page transfer from BrainKing only to a certain group of users? What do you think why I don't have those issues? Because I am living relatively "close" to Prague and my ISP obviously has a good connection to CZ, or because I am on a mysterious BrainKing white list of people being serverd promplty?

Gordon Shumway: I just "tested" 3 different Prag sites...all of them were flying....same distance bud :)

Andersp: I see... So it's gotta be the white list...

Fencer: OK, i will except what you say

Just so weird that up to a few days ago the site transfer / loading whatever we call it here was as fast as every pother place.

So my question is, what has changed

Oh yeah, and whats the difference between brainking.com & i.brainking.com ?