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6. März 2010, 18:53:34
The Col 
Thema: Re:you make it personal,there's no need, it kills a good discussion
Artful Dodger: "figures"?

I think you need to take a chill pill bud, nobody is here in the hopes of measuring up to your opinions,at least not me

6. März 2010, 18:27:42
The Col 
Thema: Re:you make it personal,there's no need, it kills a good discussion
Artful Dodger: I'm a sniper? because I don't post here daily? I state my opinions on topics of interest, that's good enough for me.I wasn't aware you were the judge of what qualifies,amp it down a bit

6. März 2010, 16:20:13
Mort 
Thema: Re: Some of Sarah Palin's "ideas".
Ferris Bueller: She has ideas! Most UK people thought it was scary that she might get to be President of the USA.. in the same league as Nick Griffin becoming PM!! ;)

6. März 2010, 16:16:12
Mort 
Thema: Re: Reagan got it after watching "The Day After".
Ferris Bueller: Thing is... we have a Conservative party and they are all for our NHS, the current leader of the party praises what the NHS did for him and his family.

This right wing attitude of "SoCiAliSm is bad and anti American" is nuts. Using it to justify allowing harm, fraud and a crazy system with more knots in it than a 1000 foot long rope ladder is not democratic.

6. März 2010, 16:06:19
Mort 
Thema: Re: And you do seem to be saying that you don't mind being ripped off by business.
Artful Dodger: My point was that there are those in business and in government who can and do rip joe public off. You hark on about government like no other organisation apart from government has corruption or abuse joe public.

I've seen government, business and charities who have been caught red handed with their hands in the coffers.

You point out that your current medical system is not right.. well then, it is the private businesses at the moment who are ripping the whole of the USA off. To say "we cannot use a government run system because it is socialist" is at best a loose use of the word socialist and IMHO a very strained stereotype of "better dead than red" old cold war rubbish.

6. März 2010, 09:02:45
Ferris Bueller 
Thema: Re: The Onion

GTCharlie:  I was wondering how long it would take for someone to catch on to that. 


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Onion


It's like The Dailey Show - meant to be political satire, but some truth behind it.


6. März 2010, 09:01:32
The Col 
Thema: Re:
Artful Dodger: you make it personal,there's no need, it kills a good discussion

6. März 2010, 08:58:32
Ferris Bueller 
Thema: Re: global warming "deniers"
Artful Dodger:   You state, "the global warming scenario is hype and is not supported fully by the science. "  That's what the tobacco industry sd. about smoking going back to the 40s & 50s.  They had "scientist" on their payroll to back up their false claims also.  The big oil cos. have their "scientist" to deny there is any such thing as man-made global warming.

6. März 2010, 08:38:38
tyyy 
Really? the Onion? why not National Lampoon or mad magazine?

6. März 2010, 08:06:44
The Col 
Thema: Re:
Artful Dodger: So you're saying you like to dish it out but not take it?

6. März 2010, 06:56:58
Vikings 
Thema: Re: Some of Sarah Palin's "ideas".
Ferris Bueller: The Michael Moore movie being endorsed by the Huffington Post right above it says it all

6. März 2010, 06:06:21
Ferris Bueller 
Thema: Some of Sarah Palin's "ideas".

6. März 2010, 02:20:38
Ferris Bueller 
Thema: Declare yourself the winner.
Artful Dodger:  All sides "declare themselves" the winner.  Does anyone really "win" such debates?  It's all about who is spinning it.  No one is going to admit they "lost" a debate.

6. März 2010, 01:14:43
Vikings 
Thema: Re:
Artful Dodger:The word " Ignorance" is one thing, but the word "Ignorant" is personal and is not needed

6. März 2010, 00:23:38
The Col 
Thema: Re:
Artful Dodger: It may surprise you, but I'm not an avid reader of this board,I only pop in periodically.So making an assumption that I'm well read on your(or anyone elses) overall philosophy is not accurate.Would you like to send me a bio?

6. März 2010, 00:19:26
Snoopy 
Thema: Re:knife crime
(V): but my point is
you can run has many knife amnesty has you want
it DOSN'T mean they work
its a very sore point for me right now has a school friends sister was knifed to death last year and the court case is running now

5. März 2010, 23:46:45
Ferris Bueller 
Thema: Re: Reagan got it after watching "The Day After".

(V):  & "Red Dawn".  LOL  Those obsessions did not end w/ the end of the Cold War. In the US, some people are scared of any gov't services for fear that it will lead to Soviet style Communism.  A lot of it is great theater put on by the right & insurance cos, like pro wrestling - especially those fake thugs at town hall meetings this summer & the "Tea Parties".  But, it does little to help political dialog.  I think real HC reform will come one day in this country once this facade is peeled away.


Just got one of those "push" telephone calls from the far right - trying to scare me about Obama's HC plan.  It would be hilarious if so many people didn't buy into that kind of crap.  I get to see the right & all its glory living in South Carolina, LOL.


Funny thing is, they are now laying off teachers & eliminating services to the Handicapped in full force in this state.  Parents are now having take care of those family members with severe mental retardation at home.  The average citizen is in an uproar, but they voted for Mark Sanford twice.  Aside from his little tryst in Argentina, he's tried to block all Federal Funds from comming into this state, mainly because he wanted to show up Obama.  Now, even Republicans here are in an Uproar.


5. März 2010, 23:45:10
rod03801 
Thema: Re:
Artful Dodger: This won't be debated on the board, thanks. People are calling each other stupid. It's not necessary to talk about politics with this sort of thing.

5. März 2010, 23:34:56
rod03801 
This is not directed at any ONE person, but this needs to be done without getting personal. We ALL already know this.

Thanks in advance.

5. März 2010, 23:23:31
Pedro Martínez 
Thema: Re: So you're basically saying,you don't mind being ripped of, as long as it's done by the private sector
Artful Dodger: Don't envy, old man. There is still the Third Age University for you to go too!

5. März 2010, 23:22:38
The Col 
Thema: Re: So you're basically saying,you don't mind being ripped of, as long as it's done by the private sector
Artful Dodger: Dude, why does it always end up getting into personal jabs with you?

5. März 2010, 22:46:56
Mort 
Thema: Re: Being called a Socialist is not going to change my views, but, it does for a lot of people in this country.
Ferris Bueller: But that was only because of the cold war and the likes of MaCarthyism and "duck and cover"..

.. Guess the fact that the USA having enough WMD's to kill the world several times over if they launched just didn't register on the scare meter in the US....

Reagan got it after watching "The Day After".

5. März 2010, 22:43:38
Mort 
Thema: Re: nd the majority of US citizens oppose socialism.
Artful Dodger: Which type?

And you do seem to be saying that you don't mind being ripped off by business. It's a crinimal offense over here!! Trading standards being as they are part of the consumer system. ;)

5. März 2010, 22:41:19
Mort 
Thema: Re:knife crime
Snoopy: When there was a BIG amnesty some years back. It needs to be kept as an on going thing, manufacturing making knives so cheap!!

5. März 2010, 22:39:47
Mort 
Thema: Re:This is precisely why the amendment was put in the constitution
Vikings: Pennsylvania "minority report" ...

".....That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and their own state, or the United States, or for the purpose of killing game; and no law shall be passed for disarming the people or any of them, unless for crimes committed, or real danger of public injury from individuals"

Ok.. some words from long past. I mean.. when the right was made, machine guns were not around.

5. März 2010, 20:56:59
The Col 
Thema: Re: The LBJ daisy ad
Artful Dodger: So you're basically saying,you don't mind being ripped of, as long as it's done by the private sector

5. März 2010, 20:55:29
Ferris Bueller 
Thema: Re: Felons & firearms
Tuesday:  Your Answers.com citation states, "Federal law provides significant penalties for felons in possession of weapons, unless the felon has his rights restored by the convicting state".  That means that Federal law allows for the states to restore legal gun ownership to a felon.  Many states usually do so after a period of time depending on the felony.  Same with voting rights.

5. März 2010, 20:46:47
Ferris Bueller 
Thema: Re: The LBJ daisy ad
Jim Dandy:   I frankly don't care if its "Socialism" or not.  Health reform is the right thing to do to provide proper safety nets for our citizens today & stop the bleeding of spiraling HC cost.  If that is "Socialism", I guess happy to associate with it.  SS was the right thing to do.  Only people with extreme Libertarian views want to abandon SS today.  Being called a Socialist is not going to change my views, but, it does for a lot of people in this country.

5. März 2010, 20:02:18
The Col 
Thema: Re: The LBJ daisy ad
Artful Dodger: The whole concept of group insurance uses the same "socialist" concept that is being used as the boogyman.The big insurance companies are laughing at the people doing their bidding so that they can post record profits, the jokes on the people

5. März 2010, 09:30:32
Snoopy 
Thema: Re:knife crime
Verändert von Snoopy (5. März 2010, 09:33:51)

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