Artful Dodger: I managed to see a brief clip from the debate on a local news program, and I couldn't help feeling sorry for Bidden because of how foolish he looked. Ryan is so much younger but you wouldn't know it if just listening to them talk. Ryan wasn't disrespectful, but he did come across as being more mature. But like I said, it was just a brief clip, so I'll have to find a transcript of the debate and read it... I'd rather do it that way than see it, so I didn't really miss anything important. Playing with the grandkids tonight was important, didn't want to miss out on that.