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10. juuli 2009, 09:11:39
gogul 
michael Jacksons music and life is politically irrelevant. A few interesting people died lately, how about McNamara. Michael Jackson is taking too much space on this board.

10. juuli 2009, 09:28:05
Mort 
Teema: Re:
gogul: Politically.. not really... but as a matter of human interest... no.

We don't want to go back to the old days of abuse being hidden and not talked about.

And it is a politically talked about subject here in the UK, as several cases of abuse have come to light through those who are supposed to monitor at risk children have let down children resulting in deaths. Some people have lost their jobs over certain cases.

10. juuli 2009, 09:37:57
gogul 
Teema: Re:
gogul toimetatud (10. juuli 2009, 09:38:46)
(V): Right. there is michael, there are kids, there is his daddy and his family. Michael serves as an example of somebody who didn't see the need to solve his personal problems. Lost childhood the poor michael? Aww

10. juuli 2009, 10:11:15
Mort 
Teema: Re:
gogul: You know some people know they need to solve problems but don't know how.... or put into a state where they think such solving is not possible, or find such a task too daunting.

"Aww" reminds me of attitudes that have kept the cycle of abuse going, people led to believe that what they have been through is an unmentioned subject. It's normal...

It is not.

And if MJ's life leads to even just a small number of adults and children escaping such a vicious cycle then it'll never be a waste.

10. juuli 2009, 10:18:42
gogul 
Teema: Re:
You don't solve your problems by taking a look at mj's life. People who don't know how to get decent, I don't know. Should I care? All that michael can teach is a howto 'be a puffed up ego' in five steps.

10. juuli 2009, 10:29:10
Mort 
Teema: Re:All that michael can teach is a howto 'be a puffed up ego' in five steps.
gogul: Then I suggest you are missing the point. I see no ego, I just see a kid that never got a chance to be a kid.

And being childlike has been said to be one of the most important aspects of ourselves by many people, and many religions and philosophies.

10. juuli 2009, 10:35:14
gogul 
Teema: Re:
(V): "Aww". its my very right to get over the past and to not bug anyone anymore with it.

10. juuli 2009, 10:03:58
gogul 
Teema: Re:
(V): This point comes as soon as your surrounding understands enough about TRANSGRESSION. Transgressive people are much worse than aggressors.

10. juuli 2009, 18:17:53
Papa Zoom 
Teema: Re:
gogul: "michael Jacksons music and life is politically irrelevant. A few interesting people died lately, how about McNamara. Michael Jackson is taking too much space on this board."

Gee, you and I agree!

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