(V): being the google king..I would have thought you'd have cyphered this out.
Rod asked"Is it "anti Christian" to believe there may be life else where in the universe?"
I stated" Ezechiel saw the wheel"
the book of Ezechiel describes what I believe to be,an ALIEN encounter.

now as far as "shrooms" go......lol heres a guy that was picking the wrong kind.


but...as I was feebly trying to add input.. I was at least staying with the conversation at hand.

Bwild: That one I never could figure out. I assumed the parts of that vision represented something rather than being something. Or maybe he was seeing something in the future that wouldn't make sense to someone living then. I don't know. I've heard different explanations, but I still don't get it. This is what happens when I don't read things all the way through.

Some people read the health bill all the way through... I wasn't even going to try slogging my way through that one.

Bwild: The wheel is also a common symbol when it comes to the Gods. A variation on the crucifix and other ancient symbols. The moving God I think it represents.

N' no.. that was from a library book on spiritualism and mysticism. Some old prof explaining it, not google.

I also said "....or just the strange world of unconscious conscious dreams?"

I guess you've never had one of them.

In the end.. Christianity and Aliens.. The book was never about science. Just the church made it that way. Just the way in the UK we are taught about Christianity or was by the teachers at the Catholic school I went to.

Bwild: it is hard to inject oneself into a conversation on here isn't it? Ive tried, but keep getting ignored, so I just read the crap others have written.

MissDelish: We're not alone!!
personally I feel politics are no more than diversions developed by the big business' that run the countries and their puppet politicians.

Bwild: I think you're 100% right about that.

Bwild: "the book of Ezechiel describes what I believe to be,an ALIEN encounter."

Depends on what you mean by "ALIEN". If it was a strictly physical phenomenon then the people he was with would have seen it too. But the passage doesn't mention anything about the other people witnessing the event.

"Now it came to pass in the thirtieth year, in the fourth month, on the fifth day of the month, as I was among the captives by the River Chebar, that the heavens were opened and I saw visions of God . . .

Since only Ezekial is refered to as witnessing the event, it really doesn't fall under the catagory of an alien encounter (physical creatures from another planet). Also, it was not a subtle event... if it was any kind of natural phenomenon (including alien encounters) everyone there would have seen it as well.

"Then I looked, and behold, a whirlwind was coming out of the north, a great cloud with raging fire engulfing itself; and brightness was all around it and radiating out of its midst like the color of amber, out of the midst of the fire.

Not the sort of thing only one person would have noticed. But then the vision refers to a man in linen told to gather coals and scatter them over a city, harldly a message you would expect to hear in an alien encounter.

"Then He spoke to the man clothed with linen, and said, 'Go in among the wheels, under the cherub, fill your hands with coals of fire from among the cherubim, and scatter them over the city.' And he went in as I watched."

"Then it happened, when He commanded the man clothed in linen, saying, 'Take fire from among the wheels, from among the cherubim,' that he went in and stood beside the wheels"

Parts of Ezekials vision sound a little bit like an alein encounter, but it better fits the picture of a vision apparently given specifically to Ezekial. Anytime the Bible talks about an event visible to everyone present, then it's always mentioned that everyone witnessed it.

Iamon lyme: imagine seeing such a site,in those days. if he would have told everyone.."hey! I just saw an ALIEN!" he'd have been stoned(maybe he was) or in the least,deemed a heretic.
preachers have a way with bending terms and words.
I think all deities are the result of encounters.

Bwild: I have enough trouble with science without trying to figure out how or why visions are parcelled out. For instance, if light takes about 8 minutes to get here from the sun, how long would it take to get here if you could get light to travel twice as fast? You would think the answer is 4 minutes, but it's not. Anything traveling towards us faster than light speed would get here before it left... I still have trouble wrapping my head around things like that.

Bwild: Actually, I can believe that some people are literally able to see things that others don't. Magic Eyes pictures are a good example. The "hidden" patterns are there, but not everyone can see them. The trick to seeing the images is letting your eyes relax and let your brain "see" them... your eyes can't see it, but your brain can.

This fascinates me, because it suggests reality may be full of things we don't perceive simply because we've been trained to only see what is in front of us... but not the patterns those things may collectively form.