(V): "Well if they have nothing to hide... what's the problem...."

And if liberals have nothing to explain, then why is it a scandal? If they've done nothing wrong then they have nothing to worry about.

Iamon lyme: Is it?

Will the whole of the White House have to retire to Cuba?

Will the shop down the road run out of Cuban cigars???!!!???

... Please, I need to know!! ;P

(V): Iamon lyme: "Is it?"

"... Please, I need to know!! ;P"


No V, it's not a scandal. The president is only saying it was wrong to target conservatives because they got caught doing it. After all, what's wrong with politically motivated witch hunts? Everyone does it, right? There... feel better now? Good.

Iamon lyme: Or just revenge.... like plebgate.

Maybe we should have Bieber busted for smoking weed in the UK for being such an annoying idiot... But that would break his common law right, even though it's illegal.

You need to watch "Yes minister" dude.

(V): "Maybe we should have Bieber busted for smoking weed in the UK for being such an annoying idiot..."

Spoken like a true liberal.

"But that would break his common law right, even though it's illegal."

I see. His common law right is illegal... or did you mean it's illegal to break his common law right? No, that can't be it... that would be like saying it's against the law to break the law. I need my lawyer to help me with this... but then he might need to call in his lawyer to help him.

Q: How many lawyers does it take to untangle this mess?

A: None. It can't be done.

Iamon lyme:

Simple explanation...

" Common Law was established by Alfred the Great, who reigned from 871-899AD. He compiled the laws and customs of the nation into the "Liber Judicialis," based on the Ten Commandments and the Golden Rule. Alfred's son, Edward, declared

To all who are charged with the administration of public affairs I give the express command that they show themselves in all things to be just judges precisely as in the Liber Judicialis it is written; nor shall any of them fear to declare the common law freely and courageously.

In contradiction to the Common Law, the Civil Law of Rome prevailed in continental Europe. When William the Conqueror invaded in 1066, he brought with him jurists and clerics steeped in the principles of Roman civil law. Our ancient laws and customs withstood the shock, and remained without any serious amendment. Common Law includes the Charter of Liberties, which makes the Monarch subject to the law, the 1102 Synod of Westminster, which abolished slavery in England, the 1627 Petition of Right, which granted the right to criticise the government without fear of arrest, as well as Magna Carta and the Declaration of Right. Common Law defends property rights and rights to self defence.

Many of our greatest constitutional documents are Common Law documents. These are not Acts of Parliament. Their principles cannot be repealed by Parliament, and when our Monarch swore to uphold the "laws and customs" of the people of the United Kingdom at her Coronation, those "laws and customs" include Common Law."
.......

"In the year 1215 the first of our constitutional rights were set down on paper, it was called the Magna Carta, this was basically an oath from the crown (King or Queen) to uphold the rights of the people set down in it and to look after the peoples best interests, in return for the crowns promise to the people they agreed to be ruled by the crown, so it was a contract between crown and people basically, and it became the law.
The crown had to uphold the rights and common law as did the people, not to cause death, harm, or loss to another, or be fraudulent in your contracts (in other words be honest and true).

In 1689 the bill of rights was set down on paper, this basically sealed all the rights given in the Magna Carta plus a few more, both documents contain our UK common law written down and formed our law.

These two documents are the main fundamental parts of our UK constitution, yes we do actually have one, many claim that the UK has no written constitution, this is not true. We have the most respected constitution in the world, it is the basis of the constitutions of the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and India.

Rather than being one written document we have several that make up the UK constitution, the primary of which is the Magna Carta and the 1689 bill of rights. (the freeman movement in Canada seems to be gaining respect from some Canadian policemen) Part of both the Magna Carta and the 1689 bill of rights states that they cannot be repealed because they are such well made laws and rights! "

................Understand?

(V): "................Understand?"

Uh huh. So what does it mean when someone declares he will ONLY abide by and honor common law? How is that different... or is it a meaningless proclamation?

In other words, what law is he trying to avoid being held accountable for?

Iamon lyme: No. In America maybe.... your laws are all enforced so I believe.

But in the UK, all acts and statutes ....


""As common law comes from basic human morals if you’re considerate to everyone and respect their equal rights, don’t cause harm, injury or loss or fraud in any of your contracts you won’t break common law. Until a true crime has been committed we are all equal in the eyes of common law. As we are all equal, authority can only be gained through consent which in theory forms a contract, without that nobody can claim to have any more rights than you. If they try and take them by force that doesn’t make them authority but an enemy, unless you submit and then you have consented. Statute law is created by the government in the form of legislation and the only way this can possibly operate while it’s a common law country is through consent. Instead of being based on principle, statutes are based on words that can be added to, changed or removed. Statutes are legislated rules of society and are loosely described as law only because they are given the power of law by the consent of the governed, as it is a common law country and everyone is equal that means you. No one can consent for you on your behalf without your consent. Some would say the government can give statues the power of law because they represent the people but if you didn’t vote or voted for a different party or didn’t even put your details to register to vote, how can they claim to lawfully represent you. They can’t say the simple fact of you being in the country is consent because it is a common law country.""

"The fundamental law system of this country is common law which is based on principles rather than words. The source of common law is pure natural human nature, unwritten law or “gods” law."

""The distinction between a law and a statute is that a law applies equally to us all but statutes can be made to favour one sector of society over others, for example, people with disabilities are given preferential parking privileges (which is fair enough) and politicians have given themselves special dispensations re their expenses which the rest of us do not have (which is outrageous).

- There is a compulsion to obey laws. Laws defend our freedoms and liberties and through them we live in peace and harmony with our neighbours. Failure to comply with laws would render an individual an outlaw. If you do not respect the law then it can afford you no protection.

- Obeying statutes is voluntary i.e. with our consent. Any individual can withdraw their consent to being governed (controlled) by the statutes of a society. This might involve their exclusion from that society and the loss of benefits, but when the imposition of the liabilities outweighs the benefits, then that might be a price worth paying. The choice is and should be yours.

- Consent must be given by the individual and not by a collective on behalf of the individual – this would be dictatorship by the majority. There is no freedom in having to do whatever you are told. Each individual must have the absolute right to give and withhold their consent. This is the basis of our constitution – individual freedoms.

- Government is elected into ‘office’ not ‘power’ as they frequently like to claim.""

>>>>>>>>>....... As one who hates government I'd thought you'd love this sort of thing. :P

(V): I have no problem with government that represents and serves the people, and can be held accountable for its actions.

I don't trust political entities that work to serve only themselves, and will avoid accountability to the people. Political entities like this hold everyone else accountable, but not themselves. And, I don't trust lone wolf individuals who want to avoid their own responsibility by holding themselves unaccountable.

................Understand?

Iamon lyme: .... Common law states that everyone is accountable. No-one has any special privileges above another.

Clear?

(V): "the freeman movement in Canada seems to be gaining respect from some Canadian policemen"

Iamon lyme: Not the likes of Officer Bubbles I imagine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMTm3QRwEc

(V): Okay, I get it now... this is one of YOUR rules. Right? Like the one that says you may not talk to feminists if you're not a feminist?

Is that it? Please... I don't want to call in a team of lawyers! Don't you know how expensive that can be?

Just tell me!!!

(V): Okay, NOW I get it... I think.

It doesn't matter what the lawgivers and rule makers say, you can elect to ignore any law you don't like if it doesn't specifically fall under the heading of "common law". It's either that, or you agree with the purists who have decided they will only honor common law.

That's it, isn't it. It has to be. That's the only thing that makes sense...


Awww crap, and there's the rub... it makes sense!!