The Usurper: Hitler is/was the greatest controller of minds in the world.

Bernice: Hitler is/was the greatest controller of minds in the world.


...and he gave a great speech as well

Bernice: I disagree, I recon Stalin controller was the greatest of modern times followed historically by the RCC before the reformation. And as a group controlling people, telling big lies.... Some of the modern Christian movements in America, who put business and the use of fear, above the truth and God.

After all.. If they told the truth.. they wouldn't get their limos.

The Usurper: A modern example would be McCarthyism (sp) from the early period after WWII, where anyone with even the remotest connection to the communist party was persecuted. Bad hysteria based on all communism being bad.

...... Even though just a few years before, they were our brothers in arms against Hitler and we were supplying them with essential supplies through which many sailors died from U-boat attacks as we knew if Russia fell, Hitler would have only the west to concentrate on.

I still remember pictures of the two sides meeting when they'd over run Germany and Berlin and the joy and comradeship shown by all soldiers for their fellow soldier at the joy of defeating the Nazi menace.

(V): You're absolutely right. And now the same McCarthy-style mindset that hunted for Commies in the old days is looking for Muslim terrorists & their sympathizers today. Going back further into European history, we had the Inquisition torturing witches and, in the Protestant movement, Calvin burning "heretics" at the stake. I think I see a pattern here....

The Usurper: Yeah I remember the Witch killings thanks to King James here, all over misuse of certain scripture and really not looking at the contexts that said scripture were about.

"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" was about gold digging females that use their body to entrap a man into making them pregnant and making the man marry him out of duty rather then love. And being as a loveless marriage is against how a marriage is defined by God (A union of two souls) it is an abomination against the institute of marriage and God.

The other scripture that comes to mind is one about the misuse of 'spiritual', 'psychic' and natural 'magic' such as knowledge of herbs, etc. Such stuff is not to be used except for it's purpose to heal, which is recognised by healers and Wiccans alike. It is not to be used for self gain, and certainly not for some of this stuff we have today like "Most Haunted", psychic lines to find your true love, etc.

That is misuse and against the rules and regs and common sense of genuine gifted people. Not the 'money greedy ones'.

And don't forget the wonderful Reformation wars, which still (I believe) holds the record for deaths caused by it, some 40 million or so.... directly and indirectly from consequences like the break down of infrastructure and famine.

(V): There's no high like killing for God, I guess. I think Jesus also had something to say on that.....