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26. märts 2009, 23:28:43 Teema: Re: Heres another one for you regulate big government socialists libs Czuch: "I mean, under a dictatorship, very few people win, so why would so many be in conspiracy to help make a dictatorship, if they have no benefits from it?" By this reasoning, any dictatorship would be ruled out, wouldn't it? But we know from the historical record, and from present conditions, that dictatorships are quite common. Clearly, those who conspire to establish dictatorship DO receive benefits from it, or at the very least, believe they will. Consider Nazi Germany. To be an SS Officer was to benefit. To be a scientist was to benefit. To be a Nazi propagandist was to benefit. To be a member of the ruling Party was to benefit. There are many benefits to participating in a dictatorship, provided one has no qualms & is able not only to willingly sacrifice his own freedom but also willing to sacrifice and/or expunge the freedoms of others. 26. märts 2009, 23:52:49 Teema: Re: Heres another one for you regulate big government socialists libs The Usurper: Well, most dictatorships rise not from a strong democracy, but from splintered and poor people.... I know, you are going to say that is their first objective, to make us so weak we will give up our freedom to be saved at any cost, and they are so smart, they are actually counting on other smart people to help them accomplish this.... its like all the rest of your conspiracies (or are they all just one big one tied together?) Its like saying there was a conspiracy by the founders of the US to make us a republic.... 26. märts 2009, 23:59:24 Teema: Re: Heres another one for you regulate big government socialists libs The Usurper: Okay, I think I got it now.... Conservatives want us to be a dictatorship and are trying to get there through dominance and power.... and liberals want us to be a dictatorship and are trying to get there by making us so weak we wont have any fight left to stop it.... If this is true, we are actually in a good place, with half liberals and half conservatives, both fighting against the others, actually keeping either one from completing their objectives!!!!  27. märts 2009, 03:40:58 Teema: Re: Heres another one for you regulate big government socialists libs Czuch: "If this is true, we are actually in a good place, with half liberals and half conservatives, both fighting against the others, actually keeping either one from completing their objectives!!!!" Unfortunately, the so-called Conservatives & so-called Liberals are not really competing. Thay are on the same side and the enemy is YOU. That's the point I am making that somehow you continually fail to acknowledge, let alone deny. 27. märts 2009, 04:10:08 Teema: Re: Heres another one for you regulate big government socialists libs The Usurper: Unfortunately, the so-called Conservatives & so-called Liberals are not really competing. Thay are on the same side So they use different tactics for the same results? The whole point is to make us weak, and then hammer us with a new world order? |
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