The Usurper: Now,now, let's not be petty

The Usurper:Ok, let's assume he didn't say it, for the sake of argument.

We have to assume he didn't say it, there's no evidence he did. 

The question then is, does Bush in fact despise the Constitution?

Well, you'd have to make a conclusion based upon some evidence and you'd have to make a subjective judgment.

Did his actions while in office provide overwhelming evidence of that?

No.  You will say yes but overwhelming?  Prove it to me. 

Did he undermine the Constitution, oversee the gutting of its Bill of Rights, and otherwise act as if he were not bound by it, in true dictatorial style?

Again, you are assuming the very thing you are trying to prove.  Question begging. 

So whether he said these words in actuality is not very relevant.

You are absolutely 100% wrong here.  It fully matters.  The very issue under question right now is the quote! 

I think he probably did, but then I wasn't there.

Who cares what you think?  That's certainly not proof of anything!  I think he probably didn't!  There.  Now I've balanced out your opinion so we're back to zero. 

What he DID, however, is very relevant.

What he DID is an entirely different question.  I'm ONLY responding to the quote you claim is his.  You have NO PROOF.  No proof but yet you still believe an anonymous source.  You just went down a few notches on my respect meter.    Now I know that you'll believe something is true even if there is no evidence for it.

I expect now you'll want a list of things he did to undermine the Constitution, with links to supporting evidence, etc.

Of course.  And since you're the one making the claim, it's on you.

But really, so much information is out there, the evidence is so complete, that if you don't recognize it already, nothing I could post could change your mind.

Well, all I have to do is go to some left wing loon's website and I can find all the "evidence" I need.  Of course, I'll just stick to the right wing nut's websites.  Think I'll find anything there?

Artful Dodger: "Of course, I'll just stick to the right wing nut's websites. Think I'll find anything there?"

Try Jack Blood, Alex Jones (PrisonPlanet & InfoWars), G. Edward Griffin (FreedomForce), etc. These people are Libertarians. Or try reading some Ron Paul stuff. :o)

But you're right, the Neo-Con websites will have a different view. But while they will improperly defend a Fascist like Bush, they will also properly accuse, say, Rhodesian socialists like Clinton or Obama, which accusations the liberals will reject.

We go 'round in circles...and only the few will escape the Matrix. Most take the blue pill and go back to sleep, annoyed at being stirred from their slumber in the first place.

The Usurper:The point is, you were totally wrong about attributing that quote to Bush.  Take your medicine and stop the dance around.