Just my sixpence worth, I was happy to hear about action points as I thought I'd get a lot more games played. Also stairs and tourneys might move faster. How wrong could I be LOL, the tourney I'm in is still waiting for first round games to finish so as to start the second round. At present rate it could start Sept. Stairs well my 1 game has moved a bit but I wouldn't say at a fast pace. If anything I'm making less moves since action points started, but who can tell what might happen, after a couple of weeks playing the same person to build up points, might be more soul destroying than competitive. Actually think my views come to a shilling instead of sixpence.

skipinnz: I'm already starting to feel worn out.

gambler104: ROFLMAO, well hang in there it's only 26 days to go, and I haven't made a move for a couple of hours so I'm sure to catch up.

TheLamer: but like Groucho said,pawns are ratied differently in this action,so WHY must you use loopholes? Cheating is cheating is cheating.

You try to come up with a nice idea and all heck breaks lose!!

Groucho: I agree with you pawns with multi accounts can cheat very easy.We Black Rooks have nothing to gain, except if we won is to give our prize to another member.I'd gladly give a prize away to a pawn thats been playing here for awhile.
Not to someone who has been on here under 6 months and who is a problem.IMO thats rewarding for unruly behavior.

Foxy Lady: I'm a pawn


Nahhhhh just kidding

Foxy Lady:  Which is why a per - opponent point limit (POPL) is a good idea. ;)

Groucho: Exactly!!!!!

Groucho: It sounds like you have personal issues with someone. Someone pooped your party and you want to poop back.

playBunny: Thats not fair at all IMO and that remark is called baiting.

playBunny: Not at all. It doesn't affect me directly but I do think it's something to look at. Why do you object to a POPL? It seems reasonable to me since you play with other pawns anyway and the playing field would be leveled anyway.

A point limit per opponent would help to assure that an unscrupulous multinic couldn't win a membership or anything for that matter.

We'll find out soon enough if I'm all wet or on to something. I'm sure tomorrow other will chime in their thoughts. Or we'll get the notice. ;)

Foxy Lady: Yep!!

Foxy Lady: Are you insinuating that *** names removed ****, all of whom have been here less than 6 months and are currently strong contenders for a membership prize, are a problem, people who have exhibited unruly behavior? Are you suggesting that these persons are cheating multi-nicks?

Please be clear about what you are saying. Innuendo does not make worthy postings.

Which is why a Per Opinionated Post Limit (POPL) is a good idea. ;-)


edit by Eriisa. Names removed

Foxy Lady: "Not to someone who has been on here under 6 months and who is a problem.IMO thats rewarding for unruly behavior."

You obviously have someone specific in mind for such a statement Foxy Lady. If that's not baiting them then what is this baiting thing that you are on about?

playBunny: The point being made is that the potential for abuse is wide open with the current structure. I'm not trying to rain on your parade. I know you are at the top of the pawns but I don't have you in mind anyway. So relax. I frankly don't really care about how the paid membership side is structured, although I think a POPL there is wise also. But in BK we have had a history of multinics etc and abuse in the past and the current Action Point structure has at least one loophole I think needs to be reconsidered.

Groucho: What, precisely, is your proposal. I'd like you to demonstrate how it will affect the current structure.

its called 'action points' so actions should be rewarded (imo)

cheating is of course not allowed, but playing fast games is. even if its with the same opponent .. its still action

using multinicks is always cheating, working together with someone else isnt (not even in ponds imo, but thats another matter :))

pawns can only have 20 games at once so it takes quite some action to reach the level as the top action players are now

there is also a ranking with most moves per day .. which is almost the same list (almost!) .. but there is no prize attached to it

i think it would be bending the rules to allow only points with different opponents .. that has little to do with the action

maybe the action points list could be separated from the list which is used to determine the prize winner though ?

as long as the action points make people move faster .. it seems to be working a bit .. (it wont make me move faster though .. i always need some time with tougher moves, but easy games or games with less option are moved fast by me)

anyway .. action points are given per move (and per win) .. thats what action is

especially if it encourages people to make friends to work together to move very fast
(there are also tournaments inside fellowships with only a few people (friends) .. those tournaments still count in the total tournament list)

Groucho: It means if you play 25 games with the same opponent, one 1 completed game is counted each day.

BIG BAD WOLF: but points for every move?

Groucho: Yes.

Groucho: every move counts, this is just about the winning points

Thanks eveyone  ;)  

i have fast paced ludo games in the waiting room if anyione is interested

actionpoints: The Ludo discussion board ( http://brainking.com/en/Board?bc=115 ) would be the more appropriate board for such an announcement. :-) Thanks.

it seems to me that 2 completed games a day should be counted with the same opponent since many people play 2 games with alternating colors, especially in tournements

Vikings: You can postpone the winning move to the next day.

Fencer: Can you some how put that on the games board, that you have used your action points with the same person for that day, so it is fair to everyone

Vikings: Since it is still the "testing" month, I will give my opinion.

The limit of 1 per opponenet does seem low. Is there a way to maybe make the limit of 1 non-tournament game per day, and maybe 3-4 tournament games a day.

I know it adds to the complexity of the rules, but I see this limit as one that is to help stop some cheating - and most of that would come from non-tournament games.

Marfitalu: maybe not for him, but it might be for other players :)

especially when you are in a tournament with 2 games between all players .. for example in a reversi tournament where most games end after the same amount of moves .. so both games would end at the same time and same day

BIG BAD WOLF: agreed, I don't think that tourneys are a problem

If you sign up to a Tournament where brains are required for the entry fee, and the game doesnt go ahead, do you get your brains refunded?

The most active users list only shows Knights and Rooks and yesterday's champ was Erinity with a spendid 2479 moves.

But in the Pawns camp, spurred on by the competition, it was SafariGal who had far and away the most moves.

9. July 2006 .. 4600

Enough to put her, if she was a paid member, into the top 5 most active players of all times:

.1 francescolr ... 7621
.2 imsoaddicted ... 7227
.3 FOTBALISTA .... 5367
.4 beaupol ....... 5250
(5 SafariGal ...... 4600)
.5 Rainbow Days ... 4544

WatfordFC: Yes. Nothing will be lost.

Fencer: Ok, thank you.

I'm making a Jews-only fellowship, United Jews יהודים מאוחדים. The problem is, it's impossible to find any Jews here!

瀬人様:

LOL!!!

Please, no religious wars here.

瀬人様: Are Jews a race of people or a people connected by a common religion, Judaism?

Czuch Czuckers: Yes.

alanback: So you can be born a Jew and not belong to the religious faith of Judaism, and you can be a Jew by becoming a member of Judaism without actually being a member of the Jewish race????

Czuch Czuckers: Well -- of course there will be people who dispute either of those conclusions. I was not born Jewish but considered converting to Judaism while I was married to a Jewish woman; I would have been accepted into at least some congregations in the US, but I do not know whether as a convert I would have been recognized as Jewish for purposes, say, of Israeli citizenship. I doubt it. There are certainly persons of Jewish ancestry and heritage who have converted to other religions or have abandoned the Jewish faith, and still consider themselves Jewish.

I fear we have strayed far off topic here :-)

For further discussion see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_is_a_Jew

5 games lol

its funny but not funNNNy, my neighbor lost his job yesterday, trying to play over 982 games to get points,i tryed to pull him away from computer, was doing to put 45 dollals in gass tank to go to ocean for the day, he told me i was crazy.lol, i'm going friday to sunday, it's not costing me anything,but the food i eat. he has no job, the internet bill ends angust first. hope he makes it.some just go over board.

Marfitalu: Hey, it happens to me sometimes as well, sometimes its just heavy traffic, i just re-boot and then its fine

Marfitalu:

Can anybody tell me if Harley is ok

WatfordFC:Yes.  I e-mailed her a few days ago and she was quite fine.  She said she no longer wished to play here.  I really wonder why.  She'd just purchased a Black Rook membership!