WhisperzQ:

As moderator there a number of issues which come up which may or may not belong on a particular board. Sometimes off-topic discussions can be fruitful and I am always willing to read and follow these, even allowing them to remain if they make a positive contribution to the site.

In the case which has recently been discussed here the posts were not on-topic for the board and the ongoing discussion was not contributing to the well-being or edification of 8x8 Chess Variant players. While some posts were clearly expressing individual opinions (to be admired) some were couched in a somewhat devisive idiom ... when this trait began to arise ALL posts on the subject were deleted and a general comment pointing to the stated aims of the board was posted.

Subsequent posts containing personal attacks and veiled threats were deleted immediately.

I stand by the "moderating" which I have done ... I have, I believe, acted in the best interests of the site and not because of any personal biases, and I would hope that all would see that my actions have been impartial and that all have been treated equally regardless of whichever side of the fence they may reside.

I have said to AbigailII personally and now reiterate it publicly ... I would encourage her to stay here and play her games, run her tournaments, and continue to contribute to discussion groups in a positive, constructive and instructive manner. BrainKing is a community of individuals with a wide range of opinions, but in all our actions we need to remember to be a strong community we need to build ourselves up not tear each other down.

Regards ... WhisperzQ

AbigailII: Sorry to see you leave. But what you have to remember, and this applys to all discussion boards and all users - posting "off topic" and there is always a risk that messages will be removed.

In my opinion, a post about a tournament of a chess game is on topic on a chess discussion board. A post about what type of messages should be allowed in certain discussion boards is off topic on a chess board. Again, my opinion.

Anyway, this site is about the games - and it is always sad when someone lets things from message boards or private message mess up their game playing experience - which is what the whole purpose of this site is for. The discussion boards are a "bonus", and sad that some people let things that happen there get to them. I hope when you have time to "cool down" you will see this and continue to play on this site.

harley: Amazing thing to say.

Its not always possible to message first. Ideally yes, thats what most mods would like to do. But in some situations its better to remove the post then message afterwards if its likely to cause a big off-topic discussion. Like this one for example! Abigail has brought a private matter to a board where it isn't really 'on topic'. But there have been so many replies to it in a fairly short time that to delete it all would be wrong, especially when its drifted 'on topic' (if mods should remove a post or ask the author to remove it).
But different mods deal with things in different ways too, and each post is acted on differently depending what it says.

Kipling: Yes, and i think thats the polite way of going about it.

Princess Alison: The oppurtunity to remove the post was given.

Pythagoras: To be honest, i did reply to the moderator saying that they normally just delete them and there reply was " no, that is rude, i always send a private message first, giving them the opportunity in removing it themselves".

Princess Alison: Yep that is the correct way of acting i think, for example how would you feel if your above post here would be deleted without any warning, because it was NOT about Brainking itself, its structure, features and future so it was off-topic.....?

I had a rant the other day about something on a message boar that wasnt applicable, and the moderator sent me a private message asking me to remove it, which i thought was polit enough, they didnt just remove the post.

Pythagoras: I don't see many of them in the 8x8 chess variants board. Maybe it is just better moderated than others :-)
The problem with deleting a post is that some people may take it as meaning "Your post is garbage, let's put it where it belongs", when it should read "Your off-topic post is adding nothing to the thread, the thread will be more readable without it, let's do this favour to the readers".

nabla: Everything would be OK, in my opinion, if the posts haven't been deleted. I have seen 78 trillions of OFF-topic posts that haven't been deleted and some of them were just rants.......

AbigailII: I disagree. I have read your post where you asked for a tournament announcement to be moved from the board "Chess Variants 8x8", and for sure there was nothing rude or inappropriate in it. But think again : there was also nothing inappropriate or rude in the way WhisperzQ answered and deleted the two posts about this subjects.
Given that the description of that board very clearly explained that it was partly dedicated to tournament announcements in 8x8 chess variants, it was your post which was off-topic on that board.
Maybe to care for your touchyness WhisperzQ would have done better by moving it (and his answer) to another board ?
I don't like to mess with other people's affairs, but I find it too unfair to put this kind of pressure on WhisperzQ while he was only doing (correctly in my opinion) a helping job. Would you like all boards unmoderated ?

Rose, Giorgos: She said moderators, that means she didn't mean just Whisperz but also someone else must have "stepped on her bunion". If you asked me what I thought about her leaving, I'd say "I'm not disappointed".

AbigailII: Don't cut off your nose to spite your face.. Meaning if you leave here because one person upset you then you lose out on the rest of the site you love so much..

AbigailII: I hope you didn't resigned all your games yet, so you can re-think your decision!

WhisperzQ is a good moderator and i don't really understand why he did that?!?! I'm completely surprised! You just expressed an opinion, nothing inappropriate or rude or insulting at all and i even agreed with you, but yet our posts were deleted without any clear reason.....
But yet this should no be reason for you to leave this site........Consider it again.......!

AbigailII: I havent experienced that. I think too this is a lot better site than anyother I have been on. Maybe they were just having a bad day. I guess there is nothing you can do about it except do what you just did.

This is a good site. Lots of games, lots of development. I enjoyed playing here. But I can't stand moderators who delete posts they don't agree with. I've resigned all my games and deleted the tournaments I created.

I'll be playing elsewhere.

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your probably blocked, i am also, but when they want to see what your doing they will temporarily unblock you LOL.

Am I on your Blocked Users List? If so, why? I wanted to send you a tournament invite.

plaintiger: If you are the board moderator, it's supposed to work in this way [because a moderator must see all posts, even the hidden ones]. Please ignore the log file message, it should not be there.

plaintiger: sounds like you are the big boss of the fellowship ,thats why you are seeing greyed out messages .

BIG BAD WOLF: And to be more specific, the ratings are hidden only from the ranking lists. The still count for the "best average BKR" and "highest BKR sum" lists. And you can still see someones "hidden" rating on their profile page.

plaintiger: Hmm.. lets test.. k.. Foxy should be coming on soon..

ScarletRose: You said:

If you are the moderator of a board.. and you put someone on hide.. it darkens their box.. and you still see them.. but, others don't see them.. anotherwards.. if you are trying to hide them on the board for just your benefit.. you won't be able to.. you would have to release moding the board to do so..

interesting - i was told (by BBW, if i'm not mistaken, but i may be) that that's not the case - that there's no way to hide someone from everyone in a fellowship board short of booting them out of the fellowship altogether.

oh so it isnt truly gone ty

Vikings: That makes sense.Thanks for helping.

Kipling: no ratings change because everybody still has their rating, but rank does, and goes right back after one game

BIG BAD WOLF: Do other players ratings change, or only their rank?

nobleheart: Like Vikings said, anyone can play a new game and their ratings will be visiable again in the list.

No ratings have been lost - they are just "hidden". They are hidden for any pawn who has not completed a game within (I think 1 month), and are hidden for a paid member who has not completed a game within (I think 6 months?).

And as soon as a game is completed, the ratings are unhidden & updated with the new game results.

nobleheart: they haven't vanished, if they are not visable then one must not care enough about the game to keep it there, again, just play one game and it will be visable again

well I do agree no one should be allowed to"park" on a high rating.but allowing peoples rating to vanish is even more unfair.perhaps some though should be given to something truly fair.

nobleheart: It only sucks if you didn't earn your high rating on merit. Anyone with a high ranking should defend it regularly, or lose it.

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nobleheart: so people won't sit on high ratings

thats sucks big time..why hide them? is there a reason

nobleheart: yes, if you haven't finished a game recently, it will hide your rating, you still have it but you and others wont see it until you finish a game

I used to be able to see all my BrainKing Rating (BKR) & Your best rating positionsnow it only shows the top 10,changing my prefs does not resolve this.
its a minor thing,but was their a change to the system?

ScarletRose: you have a fetish for pies-in-the-face & food fights don't you?..lol

nobleheart:
or this

I have a great idea,how about we set up a button that does this to anyone who is abusive or ranting?
LINK HERE

The "Error! Check log file." sounds like a possible bug or error in the system - something I'm sure Fencer will be able to help with.

plaintiger: If you are the moderator of a board.. and you put someone on hide.. it darkens their box.. and you still see them.. but, others don't see them.. anotherwards.. if you are trying to hide them on the board for just your benefit.. you won't be able to.. you would have to release moding the board to do so..

plaintiger: It worked fine when I hid you and then I unhid you!
All it said at the top in red was "settings changed". Try again?
It's not a board you're moderating, is it? That's when the posts are supposed to be grey

when i try to hide someone in a discussion board, the post in which i clicked the "hide" link doesn't disappear (i.e., the person isn't hidden), but the post looks greyed-out and i see red text at the top of the page that says, "Error! Check log file."

what's up with that? and what and where is the log file?

thanks!