I could say with the same "success" that PayPal is the slowest money processing site in the world and all other sites of this kind are operating at a light speed, and it would be just the same nonsense.


The thing is, if paypal is the slowest, at least it is always the slowest all the time, and the same every time it is used and the same for every user.

But you have yet to address the reason Brainking seems to be so inconsistent between uses by the same user? Why are some days "normal" and other days with "problems"? Why is it different for Brainking than for other sites that all appear to be at least consistently good or poor?

Czuch: I have noticed that you have created an account at the blog site. If you have received a confirmation e-mail and clicked the activate link (I think that's how it works), you should be able to post your comment if you click at the particular article page (click here and scroll down to the comment form).

Czuch: when you figure out how to respond to the blog can you let me know, I tried the same thing have an account etc, and still couldn't respond and I would like to,

beach: Hell, these third party products make me really annoyed sometimes. The sooner I create my own blog system the better (because it would be easy to integrate it with BrainKing user names and passwords).

beach: Okay, I think fencer is correct, I dont remember anything being said when I created an account, but I just checked my email and there was a link to make the account active, that must be the problem, except, since I already made my post here, I havent tried it again!

beach: yes me as well.....ages ago now before the crap of this place being so darned slow........but then it is probably because we are all now "rattlebrained" another beauty, with words of wisdom from the mouth hisself.

Czuch: I figured it out

http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bild1oh9.jpg

Czuch: well I tried and still couldn't clicked on the link activated the account and it tells me I cannot post, guess you aren't allowed to discuss this problem anywhere now

Fencer: The comment form will only be displayed if you are already logged in. If not you have to click the "log in" link (in tvery tiny letters at the bottomof the page), log in, be sent to a weird page that seems to be an administration menu of some sort, click the "back to weblog ink", find the entry you want to comment and click the "comments" link and finally scroll down to the log in form.

With practice this takes just a few seconds, but it's boring nevertheles...

beach: No, there is obviously something not being done correctly. (Not surprising, as it can be a bit confusing). I just posted a comment on the blog just fine. To reply to a post, scroll further down on the page to the log in. (There is an area that at a quick glance looks like the log in, but it isn't. I recommend scrolling ALL the way down, and gradually scrolling up. You will then see the appropriate log in area.) Once you log in, you will then see the "reply" links. When the blog first came about, I had a hard time, and found I was trying to log in to the wrong area. Give it a try.

rod03801: I just went and had a look. The "User Self Registration" is the part that CAN be confused as the log in area. It isn't. The correct log in area, is just below the area that lists recent "comments". (On the right hand side of the page.) You will see "User Self Registration".. then "Comments", (with a list of.. um.. about 15 recent comments to different blog entries), then "Powered by Serendipity", then "Author Log in"

Czuch: But you have yet to address the reason Brainking seems to be so inconsistent between uses by the same user? Why are some days "normal" and other days with "problems"? Why is it different for Brainking than for other sites that all appear to be at least consistently good or poor?
The theory about problems in the connection between the user and the server is consistent with this symptoms - one hour you can be directed through a quick, less congestioned route; other times you can b routed through half way accross the world before getting to the destination. The internet can be very unstable sometimes...

All this recent talk about BrainKing.info just made me think about one thing though - if the problem is indeed in the route between the user and the server, then I guess people also have problems with the BrainKing.info site? I mean, the pages can be 2-4 times smaller than the regular BK.com pages but for the people complaining about the pages taking over 30sec to load I'm sure they'll notice some slowness too...
If, on the other hand, BK.info pages take only a couple of seconds to load, then other alternate theories should be considered...
And anyway, it's an alternative to test for people that say they don't know of other sites in Czech Republic to test from...

(For the record, I think that this is the most likelly theory... but it doesn't mean it shouldn't be proved somehow)

rod03801: Thanks Rod, I was finally able to post a comment, I was just not going down the page far enough

pauloaguia: The internet can be very unstable sometimes...

The problem is, that if that were the reason for problems here, it would not be a unique problem just for this site alone, would it?

I dont hear one person saying the problems they find here are similar to what they are finding at other sites?

The only reason I can think of is perhaps this is the only very commonly used web site that hails from the Czech Republic, and perhaps if we were all using another site from Czechoslovakia, we would find similar inconsistencies that we see now?

is it just me or has the 'play this game later' (or whatever it was) button disappeared? (or was that button only ever a figment of my imagination like the last 'feature that changed suddenly' )

nodnarbo: maybe it was all a dream........

nodnarbo: The big ole "Play Later" button down on the left-hand-side right below the gameboard? It's still there, thank goodness, I love that button

nodnarbo: A lot of the options and extra things like that were removed from the "lightweight" version - so if you are using that, that could be why you don't see it.

srnity: OK haha hiding right in front of my eyes, wow...

nodnarbo: Sometimes the button doesn't appear when you click a game directly from the MainPage... I think the idea is - if you choose a specific game then you shouldn't want to play it later (I don't aggree with this principle but that's how it works - fortunatelly it's only some of the times)
coan.netThe button shows up in lightweight version.

Czuch: The problem is, that if that were the reason for problems here, it would not be a unique problem just for this site alone, would it?
It depends on where the problem lies... if it's a problem closer to the server, then you may only notice it on a few sites (those at the same host that BK.com, for instance).
Why only some people complain about it is what I think doesn't fit into this theory, not the fact that itonly affects one site.

The only reason I can think of is perhaps this is the only very commonly used web site that hails from the Czech Republic, and perhaps if we were all using another site from Czechoslovakia, we would find similar inconsistencies that we see now?
Which is why I suggest people check to see BK.info when they have problems with BK.com. They're hosted on different machines (I think) and at the same provider... if people only have problems with BK.com then I'll start supporting the "server problem theory" again.

P.S: Czechoslovakia hasn't existed over a decade now

pauloaguia: Czechoslovakia hasn't existed over a decade now

Thanks, I think I knew that and why I wrote it that way I am not sure

Well, thanks to Eriisa, we seem to have ChatZilla working and BrainKing has its own Channel (Live Discussion Board / Chatroom)

ChatZilla is a Firefox Extension, and is an Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client. In other words, a place to create a Live Discussion Board or Chat Room

Those of you that have used any form of IRC (Interent Relay Chat) before should have no problem finding it on the dalnet server.

Everyone on BrainKing is welcome to log into it, whether by ChatZilla or any other IRC program.

So, please just download ChatZilla, follow the Instructions and hopefully you will find Myself & Eriisa there

Those using any other form of IRC, i am sure will know how to get there , just type /join #brainking from the dalnet server.

There is no real reason to create a live discuccion forum as such, but it has been talked about many times on BrainKing.

This is just a nice way to do it in the form of a Firefox Extension and just for BrainKing users

The room is there all the time, and hopefully an Operator (Eriisa & myself at present, more will be added) will be there to help answer any questions.

So if you just fancy a chat with friends or there is a problem with the site and you want somewhere to go and vent yourself(within reason), you now have somewhere to go LOL

Come and join us either through ChatZilla OR any IRC provider

(6 People found it already lol)

MadMonkey: lol, not thanks to me! I just helped.

Eriisa: ahhh, but without you, we would not have sorted it

Andersp: Thats what its there for , as long as its clean discussion, you can talk about what you like

Andersp: the chatroom was set up specifically for brainking users to use for brainking chat.

this is a problem why?

Andersp: its allowed to discuss the bad perfomance of brainking on this board .. its definetly about brainking .. and its definetly allowed as you can see below

discussing the internal workings of the chatroom should more belong on the computer board, but the announcement as done below is allowed on here

Andersp: freedom of speech is allowed .. just use the appropriate channels for it .. lets try to keep this place a bit structured

Andersp: by posting the comments into the blog they would be collected there and it gives an even better structure .. almost like having a different thread

(i would love separate threads on the discussion boards .. i love structure :))

constructive comments or ideas on how to improve the sites performance are always welcome on this board ..

(of course thats my opinion as the mod of this board, while the comment you quoted is from the site owner on his blog site ;))

Andersp: I figure if you sang your discontent,it would qaulify for the music,board,but maybe that's just me trying to drum up some business

Hrqls: I asked in Feature requests if we could have a board to post blog comments but he has probably been too busy to give me an answer yet.

Andersp: The blog comments section is the best place to post blog comments.

Andersp: I asked for one ages ago, and the answer i got is quite true

We have one, its called General Chat

Jim Dandy: I have a good one for that lmbo!

Jim Dandy: Nah..the music board isnt on my favorite list anymore 

Fencer: ..and where can people post comments about the site's performance?

Andersp: We can have an ABBA night,just say the word

Andersp: http://brainking.info/archives/414-About-the-complexity-part-1.html
http://brainking.info/archives/436-About-the-complexity-part-2.html
http://brainking.info/archives/437-About-the-complexity-part-3.html

Andersp: about the sites performance : here or on the blog site or on general chat or the computer board or features request

as long as the posts are in line with the subject of the board

as said before : constructive posts are the most welcome ones :)

Andersp: That was my initial though,it's not good for business to have unhappy campers in full view of prospective customers

Hrqls: i guess I'm just missing something.... it surely seems to me that the best place to post about the site performance would be at the blog entry that is dedicated to the site performance.

A post would not get over-run by other topic posts as happens a lot on these boards.

Eriisa: Sure...next time a paying member wants to inform the site owner that Brain king is very slow he/she must try to find one of Fencer's three links, then try to register to the blog and then type the post hoping that at least someone shall see it.

Do you really believe that anyone will do that?

Andersp: Well, the advantage of ranting on the blog is that you can use a different name (someone elses name for instance), and create an account under that name.

In fact, you could create 500 accounts and have 500 people complaining how slow the site is.

AbigailII: LOL...true but i dont think anyone should read any of those 500 complaints :)

Andersp: *3* Well, it does keep it off the main page here where prospective members might see it and change their minds about becoming a member.