ThunderGr,

Have you ever considered setting up game invitations for the "waiting games" list? You can set up your own time controls and other parameters, and if it is a commonly played game you are likely to get some acceptances in a day or two (or much faster).

happyjuggler0: Excuse me? I do not have any complains whatsoever. Why would you refer to me?

ThunderGr: Oops! Wrong name. That is what I get for casually reading the posts.

I'll just leave the suggestion out there for anyone with open slots for games. Use the "waiting games" feature to find time controls you like, and use the "new game" feature to create your own open invitations.

happyjuggler0: This is a very good way for getting the time parameters and most of the other things about a game that you prefer. There is one thing that an accepting player can do that I do not like. He can shut off the auto-pass even though you created the game. I have never understood why Fencer set it up this way nor does he have an option to let the game creator decide to allow the auto-pass by turned off or left on.

Aganju: Though my time controls might leave more time on the clock than you or I would use, it doesn't stop us from playing and finishing a game much faster. I try to set the time parameters for the maximums that I'll tolerate.

Another proposal for extending time on a Fischer Clock would be to allow both opponents to stop the clock if they both agreed and let either of them start it again.

Walter Montego: Well that's exactly it, well put, Walter. The time control 'doesn't stop us from playing and finishing a game much faster'. It shouldn't. Time controls for board games were invented to maintain a good dynamic play, that holds true for live games as well as internet games. Now, had this website retained its early dynamism then all would be good but it didn't and I dare venture that it's the abuse of what are clearly over-generous time controls and holiday settings which one of the main reason for this loss. That's my opinion.

Marshmud: Reading on, do you still wonder 'why would you be heckled?'. Just glad no-one branded me a nazi, yet :-)

Dice Cheater:
I have just got back from two weeks camping holiday with the family with limited internet access. I've just played a move in all my games. I would have lost them all with no holiday allowance. I want to win games by out playing ( or out lucking) my opponent not by time default. There is a life outside brainking.

Dice Cheater: You are acting like a spoilt child because you can't get your own way. I am hoping that a moderator will delete your vile posting.

crosseyed: It did seem like an unusually strong reaction to a pretty tame emoticon.

The Col: It feel ashamed to think he comes from the UK. I hope he never takes ill and has to have a colostomy. Thankfully I am in good health and do not have colostomy bag.

crosseyed: It crossed the line, no question.

The Col: He got his wish. He is not upset with the game limits but the site and he has to have his way and be rude. He needs to be banned.

ThunderGr: Did you get my message Theodoros? It explained that fencer would stay on a year and help with technical issues. I want to go over some new details this week with you. Do you see what your getting yourself into? lol.

crosseyed: Sorry Mary. That was uncalled for.

Marshmud: No message in my message box since July, Marshmud. I hope it is everything for the best :).

Marshmud: Thanks but It did not upset me. He has shown his true colours now. I see all his posts have been removed now.

Taken care of,
Just a reminder to all, speaking on a subject is fine, just please do so with out getting personal

Vikings: Thank you Vikings.

ThunderGr: Dang I sent last week. Will get it to you now. I also wanted to go over fencers latest offer for technical support.

BGBedlam:
It's quiet in here. Anyone got any thoughts on slow play! ;)

We are ready for your next question.

Marshmud: I got one message only now.

ThunderGr: And I received your reply. Thanks for all your advice. I hope to move this forward over the next 4 to 6 weeks. I only hope for a little patience from the BK family and that the nasdaq market doesn't collapse in the next month...lol

Marshmud: are you looking for shareholders?

Aganju: Never even gave that a thought. I did however ask someone to go in half but I decided to go alone as its a good investment imo. My fear was the technical side of BK. But solutions have been discussed and Im cautious but optimistic that BK can once again be the best again.

I did ask on the features board for any programmers, code readers etc to message me if there was anyone interested in working on the BK code and I had no responses. I even offered a percentage of BK revenue but no takers. Luckily I found someone interested in the BK site and not the money itself for now. I even have fencer to thank because without his ideas and advice Id never be able to pull this off.

Marshmud: I am a programmer but not in Java or C#, I only know languages that are probably not in use here, and I have no web-related experience, that's why I didn't answer. I am willing to help if you ever need help (as much as I can), and I am not interested on making money out of it - I'd love to be able improve the site :-)

Aganju: To me there is no site better then BK. It just needs attention and someone devoted. Thanks Aganju for your offer. I have learned you programmers make good salary's. lol.

Marshmud: that's what my boss says all the time, but he must be talking about someone else... ;-)

Aganju:

Does anyone know of other game sites that use Fischer clock or similar time controls as Bk offers?

Marshmud: Pretty much all of the dedicated chess sites do. And plenty apps available for your phone too. Haven't seen any with the bonus system though.

I think you have a challenge on your hands though. Online turned based games have evolved considerably. Whilst I do like this site, it is a dinosaur, played by dinosaurs.

Look at http://www.kongregate.com/ or some of the turn based games available for phones and tablets.

SL-Mark: So your primarily a chess player. Not really sure your point. After a month of investigating I tend to disagree with you. I understand however your negativity

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Marshmud: No, but I do play chess. Point of post was offer something to your question. Additional point, imho, not negative, but vein of thought. What do you disagree with?

Marshmud: Goldtoken uses SOMETHING like it. Not exactly the same. Not as good probably. But it's something to help some games from "going on forever" for those who want that. I haven't used it much over there, so maybe it's more similar than I think. They also have tournaments with a "total length" too. (Their "Olympics" for example)

Marshmud: IYT uses "green dot" time controls for tournaments; I am not sure what they use for other games since the only games I play there are tournament games.

(i.e. they use fischer clock with fixed weekend).

SL-Mark: I disagree that the site is a dinosaur, played by dinosaurs. That is your opinion. You mention about phone and apps. Ive played at BK with my android for about 2 years now and every day at BK. The challenge you speak of has been planned very precisely with 3rd party individuals and I'm comfortable with saying BK has a future. So I disagree again

You are entitled to your opinion and I appreciate your feedback. I do wish you were a bit encouraged with the idea of getting BK out of cob webs however. I hope one day you can enjoy BK again and I mean no disrespect to you.

happyjuggler0: I know IYT has 28 and 48 hour tournys you can sign up for and weekends your given 48 extra hours but I guess I mean a site where you can set your own limits and your own game perimeters.

rod03801: Can you set up your own tournys at Gold Token Rod? I know people who play there but I really just play here and Tibs site Dragonheelsliar so I don't get out much. lol. Im just curious of other sites that allow you to describe your own tournament time limits.

Marshmud: Oh, no, all tournaments are site made or Club made. (some automatic, some wiki-based) Definitely not like here. I was only mentioning the similar time control opportunity

When it comes to tournaments BK is best. On Ladders IYT is much the best. GT has most of its resources promoting non-games type social activities with their DB's. But to each his own.

rod03801: I think it is a superb feature of BK. I would think it should be a priority to fix. I however have never experience a timeout by error as many here have.

Purple: Yes our ladder system is a bit odd. I like the way you move up with the IYT ladders.

Marshmud: I haven't experienced it either. But I don't use fischer that much here. Our user created tournaments are awesome.

I personally hated IYT's ladder system. But I ended up hating about everything about IYT. (And that was my full time game site before I discovered Brainking. I was obsessed with IYT. I bought all their merchandise too lol)
I think ours is decent. But seems to have lost interest. At least none of the ladders I'm in here are as active as they used to be. Err. I mean stairs. LOL...

Purple: Also Purple I listed information on the general chat board about your fellowship and the fantasy football league.

rod03801: Believe it or not I become friends with Patrick Chu owner of IYT. My daughter went to the college where chu went and designed IYT. He has a big wallet now.

Marshmud: His biggest headache was when he had DB's. Some very toxic foul mouths went completely out of control and it became too big a pain to monitor. So Patrick aborted them all.

rod03801: The biggest problem with our stair system is that you can only challenge down or even, so there is no incentive to make challenges. I know that when I get to the top of one I just sit there. also there are too many 2 game matches that end in a draw, there should always be a winner

I hope Marshmud that you get this site...fix a lot of the proboems people complain about and straighten out others LOL...I personally think that a new set of "minders" would be a good thing as well...Except for 1 or 2 of the old ones there isnt many left that Fencer picked....it is all one sided at the moment :(

Purple: Untrue. GT rolls out more new games and variants than any of the three sites. They have some fantastic people programming for them; always upgrading. I'm tired of people putting GT down without actually even giving them a chance. All I hear is same tired complaint that they're too strict on their DBs. So? Is that it? If Marshmud were smart, he would reach out to Badger, GT's owner, for advice and friendship. She's a very nice person and was in the same position Marshmud is in now when she took over from Chad (GT's Founder). No reason these sites have to be mortal enemies.

JerNYC: and I agree with you 100%.