Czuch: And why not "selling" BKR for memberships?

Seriously... we have brains, that can be used for memberships etc, why not poker chips as well? (at least after you have figured out how to keep multis from ruining things?)

What do you think about people "selling" their poker chips?

Czuch: I don't think anybody's asked him

We havent heard from Fencer yet, on his view regarding people "selling" poker chips?

Vikings: What conversation are you talking about? The trading??

I have deleted the recent thread since the global moderators and fencer is aware of the situation. Please post nothing more on it on the public boards as we don't need it to expand further

evgen: I can give you a dollar. And you can keep your chips.

5000 poker anyone?

Czuch: yes, i meant right that

After thinking a little I would share 88 000 chips for 1 year knight. It may be done by folding of course...

I would give up the whole 100K for a paid membership!!

(1 year knight or 6 month rook, of course...)

Then I'd get you another 100K... ;-)

Czuch: he's bluffing

evgen: What, lose a 50k all in hand by folding on purpose, in exchange for a paid membership?

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Universal Eyes: yes, that is why it might be better to play where players are seated by luck of the draw.

by sign up order would be the seeding of the tournament then,so if that happened here everyone could pick who they play.

Universal Eyes: no, there's never any kind of seeding or ranking in poker at the beginning of the game. seating is always luck of the draw, or by sign up order. Everyone always starts with the same number of chips, and thus the same chance to win, no ranking or seeding.

nodnarbo: My point exactly there has to be a seeding to route the tournament.

Universal Eyes: I'm assuming the entry fee will be from our chips.

and, people are just randomly assigned seats.

nodnarbo: Usually people enter with an entry fee,how it will be is yet to be determined although any discussions of the matter I'm sure Fencer will look at with anticipation.

nodnarbo:Are the people automatically put there?

Universal Eyes: usually in a poker tournament you have 6-10 people at a table, and multiple tables depending on how many people are in the tournament. After people lose all their chips the other people are usually moved around to balance the tables out, and tables are removed as the number of players decreases. there is no seeding, or byes

nodnarbo: Do you know how he's going to put people in it?

Universal Eyes: seeding? byes? have you played in a poker tournament before?

Fencer: Some people will get upset about seeding and how some players get byes to the next round a good thought would be,must have been active in so many days to participate.

Fencer: glad to hear it

nodnarbo: A couple of issues must be resolved first. But I didn't forget about it.

nodnarbo: I second that (especially if Fencer donates some Brains for the winner lol)

any sign yet of poker tournaments? I for one know i would actually play if these were implemented.

folding option would be a great addition...
and a check/fold would be great too....

any nolimit players out there?

I agree it would be great to see a fold on next turn button.

Apart from fixing bugs and introducing tournament play, here is a couple of things that might make the poker experience here more enjoyable.

The pace of the play is sometimes quite low. To improve that you should be able to choose your action before it's your turn. There should be buttons to check, fold, check/fold and maybe call also. Then when your turn comes, if the action you chose before is still suitable you'll do that. You can always fold so thats easy. If you chose check you'll only check if that is still possible. If you chose check/fold, you'd check if its possible and fold otherwise. Calliing before your turn is a bit problematic, because there might be raises after your decision to call.. But theres plenty of solutions for that also..

Another thing to help speed up the play is to fold timed out players. Now they will check if that's possible and that really should not happen.

Another thing that really needs some improvement is the showdown phase. It goes so fast that sometimes there are people asking "why did i lose?" Even if you are paying close attention to the game, you might have hard time noticing what hands everyone had. I think it would be a good idea to post the hands to the chat area after showdown.

And one more UI thing. I'd like to see somekind of slider and/or +/- buttons to adjust the betting amount without needing to type in the numbers.

I'm ready to play...

Here's couple of very basic pieces of advice, which many of the players here don't seem to get.

1) Don't be afraid to fold. There's no reason to play crappy cards.

2) If you think you're winning, don't just call or check. Bet or raise instead to make others think if they really have good enough hand.

With just these two simple steps many players in here could improve their game.

poker anyone?

Gordon Shumway: I play at poker stars alot...both play money and cash money.
you'll see the occasional rathole...but most bank their money and move to another table, buying in with fewer chips.
Theres not enough tables playing at once here yet,so coming back to the same table is the only option.
Tournament play would increase the number of players, imo , and increase the current influx of new members who go straight to the poker tables.

puupia: to the ratholing: I know PartyPoker introduced a period you have to waight too and on the iPoker network this is implemented also. As well as the rooms Stars and FT that you mentioned. IDK about Ongame or some obscure networks, but rules against ratholing are pretty much the norm nowadays. It used to be different a few years ago though.

And you have a fair point about BK ring games being a little bit like long term tournaments!

Gordon Shumway: 1) I've played at completely different sites then. I know Pokerstars and Full Tilt have timeouts before you can join with lower stacks.. but those are the only sites i know to have such rules. I've playd more tournaments than ring-games so i might be mistaken.

2) With players who can manage their bankroll in cash games what you and Mr. Miller say might be true.

But at BK the games are like "long term tournaments". Every entrant has limited amount of chips to spend. And we have very limited amount of players, and players can't really choose which kind of games to play at. You have to play whoever has joined the table. HIghrollers who would rather play with higher stakes have to play with beginners, because there just is not enough players for higher stakes game.

Gordon Shumway: Thanks for that link... it does make sense, I knew someone would find that my theory was wrong!

I guess its more tournament play where a big stack can bully, although he did admit that there might be a psychological advantage at the very least.


But one thing his theory doesnt address is the act of "banking"... if I have 10k and you have 1k, and we both play correctly, over time you will have to buy back in 10 times for every one time I have to buy back in..... so, you cant really "bank" under this concept, its just temporarily taking money off of the table

1) At no online poker room I have played, you can rathole. You have to usually wait some time before you return with a shorter stack than what you left with, typically about 30 minutes or so.

2) There is no bullying in cash games. If I have 10k and you have 1k at the table, we only play for 1k each hand. The 9k I have behind don't help me in any way, shape or form. Big stack bullying is a concept of tournament poker, useless in cash games. Absolutely useless. I have stated this several times. If you don't believe me, maybe you'll believe a "noted poker authority" Ed Miller.

puupia: one night, one stack" rule.

I havent heard of that one... but I dont have much live casino poker play either, that sounds like a good rule to me


But like I said before, I would rather not have just sat down at some table, then see some other guy come in with some huge amount of chips and basically start buying pots left and right.

Again, to me, the person trying to bank money is really doing himself a disservice at a table, and even though it is frustrating to see someone win a big pot with all your cash and then take it off the table, at least he is coming back and at a disadvantage as well, at least in my opinion.

puupia: but most eveywher you play online..there is a buy-in...everywhere I play does.

At least Grand Casino Helsinki which i have mostly played at has "one night, one stack" rule. It states that if you return to a table where you played before you must begin with same stack that you had when you left (or min buy-in, if its less than that). But of course its not very strictly enforced.

Anyways i don't really see why this rule should be used at BK. Its not used anywhere i've played at online.

puupia: I am not sure casinos do have such rules? You sure cannot take money off of a table as you stay and play, but you can get up and leave and come back, and when you do that, you are not even allowed to start with more than the table limit for buy ins.

Problem with most casinos for people trying to bank, is that once they stand up from a table, there is someone waiting to take their seat, so they cannoit just bank and come straight back like they can in here.



Yes, with play money there will always be some donkey who will take his 1K and try to get a lucky double up, or more, and they will play like that in tournaments as well... over the long term, you will take more of their money than they will from you, just play with patience and dont play their style until you have a monster hand.

Bwild: Most casinos, at least the ones i've played at, do have rules for not "banking" your winnings.You're supposed to play with same stack all night, at least if you don't move to different kind of table.

But mostly onlinepoker ring-games don't have such rules. Its usual to see people go with their winnings and return with lower buy-in. I haven't played any high stakes games, so i'm not sure if its frowned upon there. But atleast with lower stakes online play it's very common thing to do and nobody seems to be bothered.