grenv before you write good grief again I think you should take some time to think, I think there is a way to cheat in Battleboats, I never tried it beause I do not play that way but if you look into a persons games that they have finished you could see the place all their ships were at...... And if they used that thing with their ships are in their places already to start the game they could be in the same places in your game with that person, once the game starts going you would be able to see and know where their ships are........... If this does work the only thing to do is put your ships into place by your self every time you start any battleboats game.