And while i'm it, another annoying feature: when i resign a game it goes to main page. I'd prefer going to next game instead.

I would like to have a "delete and go to next unread" button in messages. I always get a bit annoyed when it goes back to messagebox after deleting a message :)

good idea grenv :o)

How about and "Accept all" button, for when people challenge you to multiple games.

LOL.. it must have already been like that then.. I guess I didn't notice it before.. :-)

I think it would be cool if the fellowship logos were on the fellowship discussion boards too...

Thanks for accepting my invite. I still go to Music and read but do not wish to add anything. I cannot go to Purple World as I erased my name so I cannot go there to read any longer. I could not help but notice how MANY complaints there are in ALL the discussion boards. Apparently these people have nothing else to do. My motto is; if you have nothing nice to say, say NOTHING. I enjoy playing the games and decided while I was waiting for others to move that I would go into them to pass time but all the complaints are so depressing. Why can't people be happy and say nice things?

danoschek: Not yet.
Kevin: Yes, that could be it :-)

I checked the team tournament, and beside the "Tournament:" it lists the tournament name as well as the two teams participating in that game. I couldn't say if it was always like that or not.

just curious ... 0:) ... ~*~

Did I? Looks like I've accidentally implemented some AI which works for me because I am not aware of any changes since your previous post :-D

Thanks Fencer! I see you already did it!
:-D

lol.. I was thinking, by their name?

I really don't have a preference... I would say their team logo by their name would be cool, but that might be a bit much, and some teams don't have one..

I would say, either by their name, or down in the game information section..

Not a problem but where exactly is "somewhere"? :-D

Fencer, I think it would be cool to see the team of the opponent in the game itself somewhere. (In the team tournament, of course)
Would this be possible?

andersp: of course i meant native speakers, i didn't mean to bash anyone learning a new language

grenv: good point about scarface. Children imitate what they are exposed to...therefore, it was an excellent decision to censor the swearing instead of the violence. That way the kids will speak "cleanly" as they evisercate, which is all the more sanitized. Sarcasm aside, it takes a certain type of parent to let a preschooler watch all kinds of TV, esp Scarface, unsupervised, which was the point. As for a real feature request, based on his comment, I nominate grenv to moderate whatever he likes!

Kammy is going to try lifting the posting restrictions. Please respect that the DB is for music and try to deal with non musical issues elsewhere if you must continue to pursue them. Thank you to everybody.

Can we get back to Feature Requests now please guys? There's been plenty of input on this subject so please take any further thoughts and discussions elsewhere leaving this board free for feature requests.
Thanks.

Having lived in the U.S for 7 years it never ceases to amaze me how seriously "bad" words are taken, yet extreme violence seems to be ignored. The movie scarface was shown on a free to air channel complete with people cut up with a chainsaw but with "bad words" censored. LOL.

Music DB Solution:

Remove those who are power-hungry from power -- simple as that. Furthermore, don't let them get in power in the first place (if you can help it).

Far as the doity words go -- Much reason to believe there is a certain majority of folks here who are sooo afraid of theirselves that they feel it is entirely necessary to enforce and/or inflict their personal opinion(s) upon others who may disagree.

You could try to tell parents that keeping their kids from reality is more harmful than reality itself.
And that it's a much better idea to teach their kids about that stuff, instead of hiding it from them -- which will in turn make them more curious and end up lost & confused.

But this action would only serve to aggravate both you and the parents -- with no results.
You can't tell people how to raise their kids -- it's nearly impossible -- and it's also not your responsibility.

Adults telling adults how to act or think or speak is absolutely ridiculous and in most cases, quite arrogant -- Cut that out! :|

Lastly, the conduct of people on the Boards should be handled by natural common sense. If words are being used to hurt someone, then the sensible Moderator should give a warning to the offender(s). If the person seems extremely un-reasonable and hell-bent on making trouble then the sensible Moderator either hides or bans that individual, depending on the degree of the situation.


       That's my No Sale :D
             ~ SF

My spelling is perfect as well as my grammar...if i type in Swedish :)

ROFL, speaking of spelling and grammer er.. grammar...... Anyone seen Slam lately?

personally, i am much more offended by incorrect spelling and grammar than "bad words", but if everyone can agree it's not ok in public and ok on private boards, then the distinction needs to clearly delineated. What some would consider to be personal attacks were merely considered as harmelss comments on the gothic chess board. Ultimately, everything is subjective here, with so many cultures and languages.

I think being mad, or drinking are just excuses for bad behavior. Where is the line drawn. One time, three times, twenty five times?

I agree that people slip up and say a word that may be offensive to someone in another country. That is going to happen. Most of us in the English speaking world know what those words are and could avoid them on the public boards.

It's not the occassional person that uses a bad word that bothers me. It's the few on here that use them over, and over, and over.
The public boards just isn't the place!

I think banning people from a board for it can be quite sensible in some circumstances. For example, if someone suddenly starts posting bad language for no apparent reason, and they're normally very polite, I might hide their posts for a while assuming they had had a drink or two, or that they were mad about something. It would give them time to either calm down or sober up. It wouldn't be because I thought they deserved to be banned as a punishment. I would see it as more of a calming measure, and allow them to post again after a few hours.

I think we all as responsible people should refrain from bad language because we realize there are kids that access the site. Of course no one is perfect and slips up now and then. Overall the language here is quite tame as opposed to other places on internet. Besides here we dont promote real things that are harmful to kids such as porn. I dont think banning someone from a board for a bad word now and then is necessary. However if there is someone who steadily using bad language they should be kept from the board. Personally I feel if someone has to use foul language all the time it speaks very poorly of them and reduces my consideration of what they have to say.

The problem with repression is just that. For example the word "bitch" is quite harmless in the Uk so I was very surprised to find it rendered as five asterisks when I posted it on a US hosted board. Likewise the US probably has harmless words that are offensive to UK ears, or maybe Mozambican ears or somewhere else's, if you try to avoid offending anyone it becomes impossible to effectively use language so I would much prefer to see those who are offended practicing tolerance rather than trying to close people down. On the point mentioned by Walter Montego and previously by Linda J that use of taboo words demonstrates a limited vocabulary; this is as unsupportable an arguement as one could wish for, every taboo word used is one more word in the vocabulary of the user than in that of the non-user.

since it was brought up....why am I banned from the Music discussion board?

get your ass in one of them then and we can tell you properly
And it doesnt have to be out in public then

Chatty the DB lay nearly dormant for a long time and when Kam became moderator there were more posts in 6 days than in the last 6 months. Most of them were from cool people who wanted to post songs or chat about music. Others came from people who had never posted on the Msic DB before and suddenly rushed in with a list of personal complaints. I understand the Cave and Boiler Room are there for people who have issues with other people but the Music DB should not be.

the only one posting porn is you in your obscene private messages. gittoutofit. ~*~

Duhh your time zones cant be more than 4 hrs apart I guess.

What is needed is 8 hrs apart at least

You may well live in different time zones and i realise you cover it as well as you both can do. I was using it as an example.. same as GC.. its not covered 24/7 because there are not enough people there..
The GC board has a moderator in the US and on in the UK.. but its still not enough..

She will lift the restriction as soon as the there is a little more reduction in posts from people who are more interested in porn or starting trouble than they are in music. It has gotten much better and we hope and believe they may tire.

There is NO excuse for the use of bad words or personal attacks on the public boards. It does nothing but show the immaturity of the people doing it. Sure, we all get mad and aggrivated. I'm just saying...do it elsewhere!

There are private boards. Public ones are not the place. My opinion is that some of you either grow up and act like adults, or be banned completely and permanently from posting on the public boards. All this bickering and name calling on public boards is NOT beneficial for this site.

why does it need covering?

Kammy lives in Central Zone and I live in Pacific. We cover it the best we can.

Fencer.. as much as some of us love being here.. you would need so many moderators for each board to have them covered all of the time.. and as has been said you would need a set of standards set and also have people who will be totally unbiased whetever is going on.. Are there that many people about who would be wiling to take on the task...

The music board is one example.. both moderators are in the same time zone.. so how can that be covered like that..
the general chat.. ok, 2 different time zones.. 2 moderators.. but neither are not always here either.. so its uncovered a lot of the time.. some of them only have one moderator.. so just cannot be covere al the time ..

I personally think it will be a hrd job to find people to do the moderating 24/7

umm..hate to interrupt, but do you think you can program Alice Chess, Fencer? just a small request.

But unless you re-do how the Moderators work, you will never get 24/7 coverage. For example, the Purple/Princess boards - no one would be as "strict" as they are, so there would be no one else that could help watch those board.

Unless you make some "global" moderators who have access to edit out bad words & personal attacks on all public boards - possible with the rule that the "global" moderators mostly just edits and hides and lets the "regular" moderators choose if they want to ban or keep hidden the user. BUT AND I STRESS THIS MUCH - If you do have global moderators for the public boards, you HAVE to have someone who is fair to all - not like some current board moderators.

chattytea: Why would it be impossible to make a 24/7 cover of public boards? The only thing we need is a sufficient number of reliable moderators around the world, that's all.

when it comes to kids and the internet.chatty,I dont think anyone is disagreeing with you.

Its great when the moderators are there on line... It would be great to have some of the boards covered 24/7... but we know that is just about impossible... but when neither/all moderator is there who can do anything??? no-one..
(Well fencer if he is here) (Or contact the individual)
Ok A lot of our children here the words in the street and in the home.. It doesn't mean they are going to start using them.. its not that they will turn into bad people if they do..

To me its a matter of respect...and its children/minors I am aiming at here more... If I swear in front of my children.. my fault, my problem.. but I certainly dont expect others to swear in front of them.. And we should respect that here.. Also there are different cultures here too.. and to some of them its a bad thing!! so again It comes down to respect...

Some /a lot of you probably dont agree with me....
But I HAVE RESPECT FOR CHILDREN! If we dont show them respect, they will never learn to have it themselves!

But BBW
B*tch does say the same....But it does not look as offensive I think

Well right now if a person uses bad language, it is up to each individual moderator on how to handle it. For example, i would probable just edit out the word. Some moderators will just delte the whole post, while others will ban/hide the user.

Again, it's basicly each moderator's board now - no global rules on how to handle things like that.

I also don't see a point in having a filter for language. It would be good if it would work, but it's too easy for someone to write b*tch when the meant to write butch. (grin)

overall,theres generally not alot of cussing on the public boards.There may be a few instances where someone has had a cocktail too many ;)
but to be moderators and use your board to delagate abuse,force people to your way of thinking or ban/moderate them...is dead wrong.

Cool :o)

Shortly, no global filters will be done.
When I have some time, I can implement user-defined filters where each user can define a list of words he doesn't want to see. But I don't expect to do it soon because any run-time filters slow down other processes which is never best for BrainKing.

traditional games - perhaps you know already ... ~*~

nice summary by specialists, show your kids.
Go figure that the search for deminers might be blocked,
because slavery-supporter Ashcroft banned the word 'bomb' ~*~

Problem is, a guest sees all public boards, regardless of her/his age.
the visible image will become part of the general reward of a site.
Normal, that in general chat some loose lingo occurs and is tolerated ...
I don't think all public boards should be public for non-members, thus.
The game-specific boards though could be an attraction as first spot,
unless some obsessive idiots misuse it for cheating their reward. ~*~