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These traps are obvious even for an idiot-inexperienced player so if we have a KRK Anti-Chess endgame it's toooooo easy to avoid them for both sides and have a draw.........
Chessmaster1000: That's a little arrogant, I think many inexperienced players playing the KR would lose to the king, especially if they thought they could win. For instance the method a rook beats a king one on one may be tried, and this would lose.
Chessmaster1000: There is nothing idiotic if someone is not master in some game, neither the opposite, if someone is able to play some games at higher level, it doesn't automatically mean his life has greater value or something. BTW Pedro, why don't you resign this game with me and only play it with the slowest possible tempo?
http://brainking.com/en/ShowGame?g=793867
U want to win or something, or you just care about your rating so much, waiting for mine to raise?
Pedro Martínez: Yes, I know exactly, in some games I didn't make the first move yet! And if there is some period where my connection is good, I waste time with writing to boards
Keep the Rook 2 files and 2 ranks away from the King in each move, having in mind the next move of black too.
Keep the King 2 files and 2 ranks and 2 diagonal squares away from the King in each move, having in mind the next move of black too.
Black's plan:
Keep the King 2 files and 2 ranks and 2 diagonal squares away from the King in each move, having in mind the next move(s) of white too.
Why it's so difficult...........?
Sorry if by saying the words "idiot and inexperienced", someone felt insulted or whatever.........As always my absolute language was misunderstood........I just meant that it's so easy to play for both sides without even have to think........Your other conclusions for my statements are not mine.........!
Fungame: There is nothing idiotic if someone is not master in some game, neither the opposite, if someone is able to play some games at higher level. And tell me where i have written such a thing.....?
And Pedro Martínez: you also remind me someone called Martinez from Gothic Chess board with some statements that i didn't agree at all. I don't remember the name....... (Just kidding, although you will take it differently, i bet.....!)
grenv: I think Chessmaster1000 means "unexperienced" instead of "stupid". I suppose this was a translation problem.
In general: We, who do not have English as native language, have something problems choosing the right word. WalterMontego, isn't it?
chessmec: So in what language are stupid and inexperienced synonyms?
Also it is absolutely incorrect that an inexperienced player would see the strategy espoused here easily, certainly a stupid person would have no hope.
grenv: So in what language are stupid and inexperienced synonyms? Please, read my posting carefully till the end, and in a context-sensitive way, please.
If you have any other question on Anti-chess endgames, fear to be called stupid and can read a tiny bit of French, the endgame section of my webpage (http://www.pion.ch/Losing/endings.html) will probably answer it.
[Made link live ... WQ :]
Due to teh current bug in Dark Chess games players can see what moves their opponents have made.
redsales named it 'grey chess' which I think is a good addition to the site!!!
What's more, based on that, I have a new game type in my mind named red chess.
When a piece is captured, its blood will split on some squares of the board randomly and both players for a few moves will not be able to see those squares and therefore, they'll have a good chnace to move their pieces in REDNESS.
I'll have to work on details more of course!
What do you all think?
Is it possible to play such a game?
I think it'll be an interesting variant.
but in battle chess, you could see the squares, reza is proposing that the blood obscure the squares as in dark. Could make for some high level timing strats.
THe problem with grey chess is that you can just play over the game based on the move list, so that it becomes regular chess!
redsales: I would probably say that in grey chess, not all the moves should be shown to the opponent. For example every three moves or every five moves. Now I think it'll be interesting.
I have four games in the "Waiting games" section if anyone would like to play a game or two. 2 game time limit with vacations and weekends still happening.
an idea: to make atomic chess a little bit more well balanced it would be helpful to place three pawns (white: e3-f3-g3; black: e6-f6-g6) to secure the weak points f2/f7.
is my idea of "atomic chess pro" silly or not? what do you think?
chessmec: I used to think it was a little unbalanced as well, but recent games against reaally good players (here and on other sites) has shown me otherwise.
chessmec: Ok, but you wouldn't want to do that unless you thought it was at least a little unbalanced. I was trying to say that it is extremely well balanced as it is when played well.
Actually to get rid of all the opening theory, which is what makes it unbalanced if anything, I think it would be good to have fischer Random Atomic Chess.
chessmec:is my idea of "atomic chess pro" silly or not? what do you think?
No, it's not silly but "Atomic-Pro" would not be so good game as Atomic Chess......It would be much slower.......
grenv: I was trying to say that it is extremely well balanced as it is when played well.
With a first thought Atomic Chess seems a game that white has a confortable advantage.....
Yet, with a more deep analysis it seems that black is not in a so bad shape at all and that actually chances for both white-black are even........
But finally with an even deeper analysis, there is one opening line that leads to a VERY VERY difficult position for black to defend. Until now i haven't found any defense for black and all variation loses (i will not give the line yet) but i'm trying......
grenv: i totally agree with the Random Atomic Chess (RAC) proposal...it is too easily memorized as it is, moreso than chess, since many more moves are forced or virtually forced. Suicide Chess could use a shot in the arm here too.
I also agree with Random Atomic Chess and Random Suicide Chess, the games as they are suffer a bit from a narrow non-losing path in the opening. But how to generate random position which will not be forced wins for White ?