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27. Septembro 2009, 17:21:23 Temo: And if Glenn beck is so great... then is it still true that advertisers are pulling out of having their ads during his program slot? http://www.nowpublic.com/tech-biz/glenn-beck-advertising-boycott-has-right-wing-bloggers-worried ".....So, what is it that Glenn Beck - and the other presenters on Fox, doing so wrong that advertisers are pulling their adverts hence the funding for that show? Well - advertisers do a little more research than TV presenters and their producers. And it is a widely known fact that the American electorate voted for one B H Obama - and the manifesto that he brought forward. I can envisage more advertisers looking at what the Murdoch owned channel is doing. And we all know how Murdoch feels about advertising revenue - he wants it and a lot of it. If the advertisers keep pulling out of the Beck show - who will be next? Fox have to start looking at being a bit more responsible - because, God forbid, someone goes stir crazy because of the incitement on their programming - I can see advertisers pulling away from them 100%. Free speech is admirable in any society, yet with that right comes a great responsibility. " 28. Septembro 2009, 10:59:39 Temo: Free speech is admirable in any society, yet with that right comes a great responsibility. (V): I agree with that statement. Much of what is spewed by Beck, Limbaugh & their colleagues on right represent reckless & irresponsible speech. Beck himself has stated he fantasized on his show about killing someone. The statement was of course hypothetical but irresponsible. As for disturbed people going on shooting sprees from obsessing over this type of garbage, it has already happened. Last year a man who walked into a Unitarian Church in Knoxville TN & opened fire. He said he did it to kill "liberals" in the trenches. The authorities found books & literature written by these "shock-jocks" on the right. I happen to know some of the people affected. So don't give me this crap about how they care only about policies. No, they can't be directly blamed for such acts. Ultimately, it was done by the individual. But, these instigators, who are paid great sums of money to get people in a frenzy, can incite violence & they do! We Americans need to be a little more careful who we worship. 28. Septembro 2009, 11:31:37 Temo: Re: But, these instigators, who are paid great sums of money to get people in a frenzy, can incite violence & they do! Ferris Bueller: This is what gets me.. it is endorsed. Fox knows that there is a small percentage of right wing psychopaths (just as Art says there is a loony left) who do not think. They've been conditioned into believing an ideology that is based on hate, fear and anger at anything that is perceived to threaten this ideology, and use the likes of Beck to say "I'm right.. this TV star says so, it's ok, to hate the Muslim, it's ok to hate liberals.. Beck says so".. As such Fox cannot say they do not know there will be incidents, just as much as a 'rogue Muslim cleric cannot say he didn't know his words of hatred for the west will not inspire some psychotic person who's 'idol' is Islam and is too stupid to know right from wrong goes and tries to kill in the name of Allah. We were lucky over here.. some white supremacist got drunk before bombing his targets and got stopped by the police and searched. He had two bombs on him he made in the bedroom he lived in at his parents house. 29. Septembro 2009, 02:35:25 Temo: Re: But, these instigators, who are paid great sums of money to get people in a frenzy, can incite violence & they do!  (V): You crack me up. These arguments of yours are so lame and so old and so hasbeen it baffles me that you think there is any merit in them. There are plenty of liberal organizations that partake in violence against both people and property. Are you willing to blame the liberal establishment for these crimes? How about rape? Who do yo blame for that? Sex in the City??? How lame. 29. Septembro 2009, 11:49:34 Temo: Re: But, these instigators, who are paid great sums of money to get people in a frenzy, can incite violence & they do! Artful Dodger: And I'm cracked up by your total blinkered approach to anyone who is your "hero" or part of your ideology.  Also by your seemingly total lack of knowing what conservative values are.. seeing as you will not define them.  Yes, some liberal orgs do have responsibility if they incite hate or violence. There have been cases of animal rights groups over here, who why they might not have pulled the trigger, they do not state such violence is bad or that it is wrong. I thought being responsible was part of the conservative way? 29. Septembro 2009, 02:31:29 Temo: Re: Free speech is admirable in any society, yet with that right comes a great responsibility. Ferris Bueller: He fantasized about killing Michael Moore. lol. Who hasn't? |
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