Gr☺uch☺: I have been thinking about it but what happens if Fencher decides to sell or goes bankrupt. So many firms are going bump at the moment and it is still a lot of money all at once.

Mousetrap: If people thought like that nobody would ever buy anything.

furbster: LOL!
I can,t help it!

Mousetrap: Well if he were to ever sell, i would think the current memberships would be part of the sell. So currently a black rook is worth 5 years of rook membership - so if you think you will still be playing of the site in 5 years, then it is a good deal.

MadMonkey: The only problem with that is lets say i'm going to take a 5 day vacation - ponds are about the only non-vacation games I will play. Plus I always try to join 4 day+ ponds. Which if I move on day one of a pond, then the last day of the next move - it is really 8 days (giving me enough time for vacations). If the ponds started to automatically go when all moves done, then some sort of vacation would then need to be applied to the ponds also. (in my opinion)

BIG BAD WOLF: Well yes but I might have got run over by a bus in five years too!

Mousetrap: Well great! If you get run over by a bus, then you don't need the money anyway - spend it at BrainKing for all your on-line friends to enjoy!

BIG BAD WOLF: Crumbs! It was just my money they wanted after all LOL!

BIG BAD WOLF: I understand what you say, but i think its about time we started looking at the future.
As Mousetrap says, thats the only good thing about Goldtoken, multi-player games. Rather than keep adding more & more 2 player games, why not start to think at least about up to 4 player ones. Yahtzee is a great example of a game that is alot better with more than 2 players.

We already have games here which are much better with 3 or 4 players (Ataxx & Assimilation). I am not a programmer, but surely to start writing/coding the games now for more than 2 players would be better than having to re-code ALL the games in say a year or so.

Also there is the other way, single player games as well. Mastermind, is a great example when you are playing a computer.

MadMonkey: I think multi-player (3+) games would be a great addition to this site. At GT, out of my 150 games there - now over 1/2 are multiplayer games - they make some games much better.

I'm not sure how much work it would be - but now that Fencer is looking at autopass, maybe he can start looking at multi-player games also.

Even though the one suggestion I would make is PLEASE make separate ratings for 2 player & 3+ player games. With multi-player games, the chances of losing raises and brings down most all ratings. Plus for many games, it changes the way you play enough that it is basically different games you are playing.

BIG BAD WOLF: Having vacation days on multi-player games, especially ones that are really large, cannot possibly work. Since we all take vacations at different times, a 3 or 4 days per move time control would turn into a week and a half to two weeks time control. So I think the best option is simply not to use autofinish in these.