joshi tm: it's interesting idea and I was thinking about it recently ... however, I think that doubling cube should be enough for Dice Poker, at least to the point that it would pass a test with many games ... putting too many things to calculate the outcome would cripple the fun of the game itself ... and we are suppose to play for fun with a little touch of gentle gambling ... I think that building gammon and backgammon combined with a doubling cube into Poker Dice would call for extensive statistical tools to solve any move ... let's talk to Fencer to implement doubling cube. Thanks for your consideration. Andy.