Tuesday: True.. but Byrd is still stained.. just like ted.. just like David Duke.. of course duke never made it to "KLEAGLE" OR KILLED anyone

GTCharlie: Exactly right. The left found Byrd useful and Byrd found changing his outward ways useful. The country was changing and if he wanted to survive politically, he'd have to change too. There is nothing noble about that.

Clearly, the Left would NOT whitewash this man's history if he were a Republican.

sickening?

Tuesday: He didn't come close to redeeming himself..it is sicking to suggest otherwise...whose next ? Goebbels?

Even after his resignation from the Klan, Byrd continued to hold it in high esteem, writing to the Klan's Imperial Wizard in 1946: "The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia."

And Byrd was old enough to have participated in filibustering the Civil Rights Act of 1964, as well as to have voted against it after cloture along with 18 other Democrats -- in the name of the Constitution, of course.

"I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side… Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds" ---Senator Robert Byrd --- (D-WV)

Tuesday: My goodness, you sure are very forgiving,He was raised by his Aunt and Uncle.. and he was college educated. He was a racist, bigot and probably bordered on what today is criminal activity. spreading hate and racial bias...condemn him for ever no... but elect him time and time again? Today he would be prosecuted. he came to his senses when he realized his views were not popular and wouldn't get him elected

Tuesday: being a member an recruiter in the Klan isn't a matter of being opinionated. They did a lot of damage and spread a lot of hate

Some sins aren't so easily "sorried": away. The Klan did a lot of damage especially when Byrd was a member AND recruiter.I'm not black and I never did a survey but to many blacks , slavery and the Klan are on par with Nazis, I would say its safe to say. How could Byrd undo or make up for his part? Same for Ted Kennedy, (for his own little episode at Chappaquiddick) sorry,but great men they are not

Who was it that was standing in the school house door preventing black from attending a public school. Yeah, a democratic leader.

History reveals that it was Democratic Attorney General, Robert Kennedy that approved the secret wire taps on Dr, Martin Luther King Jr., and it was Democratic President Lyndon Johnson that referred to Dr. King as " that N preacher." Senator Byrd referred to Dr. King as a "trouble maker" who causes trouble and then runs like a "coward," when trouble breaks out.

And these days the left plays the race card all day long. Against Obamacare? You're a racist. Don't like Obama as president? That's because you're a racist. Jesse Jackson - a racist as is Al Sharpton.

Are you for affirmative action? You're for race discrimination. All the entitlement policies can be traced largely to the Democrats. They are bribing the people with their own money.

A lot has changed since 1830 but then again, a lot has stayed the same.

Tuesday: Fox justs wants to stir and like other ultra right wing organisations.. spread fear.

Tuesday: I thought these days it was more the Hispanics who were being used. God forbid Americans paying full price for what they consume!!

Artful Dodger: Then your whole argument falls down.

Hallelujah. the end...

(V): I never said they didn't change. I said they can trace their origins to the 1830s and that they are still the same party. The Democrats reinvented themselves when the lost the slavery fight and the segregation fights. Now they just exploit blacks and minorities in other ways.

The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville

The Democratic party seized upon this idea long ago.

Artful Dodger: So... if parties still don't change and people don't change.

Are the protestants in the USA still wanting (as per their founders) wanting to kill all Jews?

Tuesday: I know.

(V): The democratic platforms are still racist today.

Artful Dodger: Many people in the USA were for segregation, many people still think black folk are less then them in the USA. Using race to hide their insecurities blaming this and that for their woes.. it does not work. Those that were active in white supremacy are still alive due to it being such a recent event. You have Conservative Christians saying being Gay is evil and against God.. Men still saying women belong in the Kitchen.

Are we all to live in the past and never move forward??

imho that is pure madness.

Tuesday: Beck is paid to be an idiot by an idiot aka Murdoch!

He's just a propaganda machine hired to keep the rich rich at the same time getting rich from being an idiot... n' because people think he's telling the truth (as Fox never would let anyone lie on their channel.. people go along with his idiocy.

(V): I said they can trace their roots back to the 1830s, lol you posted this fact yourself. And this is the SAME party that favored slavery. And it wasn't too long ago that the democrats were for segregation.

Artful Dodger: Blimey.. nothing has changed since the 1790's... not even when the liberal Republicans left the Republican party in the 1960's??

History is history.. but to twist it to making out the Democratic party is the same as over 200 years ago is a little weak. It's like saying the stars never move.

(V): They are the same party and can trace their roots back to 1830. They even admit this on their own website (minus the racial hate stuff). So let's see, go with Jules' spin or the DNC's own website.

Oh yeah, the DNC.

Artful Dodger: They are not the same party, neither is the Republicans. To say so looking at various histories from several different sites is madness. You keep harping about the Republicans going back to Conservative values... yet there is no such thing as 'Conservative' values as they vary from country to country from region to region.

It's like saying socialism is just communism by another name. That there are several types of socialism. Some work.. some don't.. some have had their name misused and made into evil to justify spending billions upon billions on weapons that will never be used.

(V): Exactly Jules. I posted some of that same information. The Democratic party arose in the 1830 and is the SAME party today. They are the SAME party that joined the Klu Klux Klan, voted to keep slavery legal, and these days they use race to gain political points. The democrats USE blacks to gain power. They KEEP blacks believing they are discriminated against so that they (the democrats) can come to their constant rescue. They are a corrupt and vile party.

The Democratic Party traces its origins to the Democratic-Republican Party, founded by Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and other influential opponents of the Federalists in 1792. However, the modern Democratic Party truly arose in the 1830s, with the election of Andrew Jackson. Since the division of the Republican Party in the election of 1912, it has gradually positioned itself to the left of the Republican Party on economic and social issues. Until the period following the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Democratic Party was primarily a coalition of two parties divided by region. Southern Democrats were typically given high conservative ratings by the American Conservative Union while northern Democrats were typically given very low ratings. Southern Democrats were a core bloc of the bipartisan conservative coalition which lasted through the Reagan-era. The economically activist philosophy of Franklin D. Roosevelt, which has strongly influenced American liberalism, has shaped much of the party's economic agenda since 1932, and served to tie the two regional factions of the party together until the late 1960s. In fact, Roosevelt's New Deal coalition usually controlled the national government until the 1970s.

In 2004, it was the largest political party, with 72 million voters (42.6% of 169 million registered) claiming affiliation. By comparison, the Republican Party has 55 million members.[5] During the first quarter of 2009, 52% of Americans identified more closely with the Democratic party while 39% leaned Republican.[7]

(V): "Clueless In England"