Bernice: There is in the telling of history and of current events, something called being satirical .. from "satire"

Satire is primarily a literary genre or form, although in practice it can also be found in the graphic and performing arts. In satire, vices, follies, abuses, and shortcomings are held up to ridicule, ideally with the intent of shaming individuals, and society itself, into improvement.[1] Although satire is usually meant to be funny, its greater purpose is constructive social criticism, using wit as a weapon.

Blame the BBC and their wonderful programs such as "QI" and "Have I got news for you".. I'd like to also thank C4, ITV.

Heard of Oscar Wilde??

Tuesday: thanks

Tuesday: What's that "let God sort them out" quote? I probably have it wrong

Artful Dodger: Thank you for your opinion

Artful Dodger: thanks for the suggestion,I'm comfortable with what I have posted

Artful Dodger: oh, an argument is what you want, sorry

Artful Dodger: Is god vengeful?

A:

Yes God is vengeful, below are a few scriptures that you may wish to confirm this.

Gen. 4:15 (Moses 5:40) whosoever slayeth Cain, v. shall be taken
Deut. 32:35 (Heb. 10:30) To me belongeth v.
Deut. 32:41 I will render v. to mine enemies
Ps. 94:1 God, to whom v. belongeth
Ps. 149:7 execute v. upon the heathen
Prov. 6:34 he will not spare in the day of v.
Isa. 34:8 day of the Lord's v.
Isa. 35:4 your God will come with v.
Isa. 59:17 he put on the garments of v.
Isa. 61:2 To proclaim ... the day of v. of our God
Isa. 63:4 day of v. is in mine heart
Jer. 11:20 Lord ... let me see thy v. on them
Jer. 50:28 declare in Zion the v. of the Lord
Jer. 51:6 time of the Lord's v.
Micah 5:15 I will execute v.
Nahum 1:2 Lord will take v. on his adversaries
Luke 21:22 these be the days of v.
Rom. 3:5 Is God unrighteous who taketh v.
Rom. 12:19 (Morm. 3:15; 8:20) V. is mine: I will repay
2 Thes. 1:8 taking v. on them that know not God
Jude 1:7 example, suffering the v. of eternal fire


http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_god_vengeful

Bwild:

Bwild: The downside to that, is that the ones most willing to do it are usually the ones least in demand

(V): that is sick....fries...women and children being burnt/killed. If that were your wife and children you wouldnt be too happy...

an old film or not, it isnt to be associated with "fries"

Speaking of fries.. an clip from an old film...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx7XNb3Q9Ek&feature=related

Bernice: I remembered the Nazi's burned books... it's a history thing.

As to burning Bibles... Just a book. as The Col. said... you can just print more.

Bwild: They'd have to be cheap ones these days for any woman to want to burn!!

now how clever is that?

The Col: there are now 20 members...the rest left....

(V) who's talking of the NAzi's

(V): I liked it better when they just burned bra's!

The Col: If it wasn't for the fact he's already been told the fire itself is illegal.. I'd go along and burn 4 Bibles for every one Qur'an he burns.

... see who cracks first.

The Col: ... Incendiaries can be renamed "fries".

Übergeek 바둑이: The Nazi's burned books.....

Bernice: How many members are there in that church? 50? I suggest protestors set up a printing press nearby, and for every Koran burned, print two more.

According to the news the powers that be can't do anything about this Pastor burning the Koran.....I would lay money on - if he was burning the American flag they would soon do something about it. Why antagonise the Muslims - aren't they doing enough to make people miserable without making it worse?

(V): Burger King would be able add a whole new meaning to The Whopper

A radio commentator here said the following, in a rather sarcastic tone:

"Since when has anything bad happened when people decide it is OK to burn books."

If the idiots in Florida go ahead, the following will happen:

1. Moslems in many countries will make big bonfires and burn copies of the New Testament.

2. There will be massive protests in Islamic countries, and they will put a price on the head of that pastor, just like they did with Salman Rushdie.

3. Al Qaida will come out and say "we told you so", referring to how "American imperialists hate Islam".

3. There will be an increase in terrorist attacks against both military and civilian targets both in the Middle East and elsewhere.

In the mantime that pastor will get more people into his church, which means more notoriety and more money for him. I doubt that his motives are fuelled by a "Christian" sentiment, or any real sense of loss after the tragedy of 911.

I wonder how Christian would feel if somebody did the same with the Bible. Say, a bunch of Communists decided to commemorate the birth of Karl Marx by burning the New Testament. The man who is trying to burn the Koran is either too selfish and too stupid to even realize what he is doing, or he is too destructive and wants to provoke Moslems.

The Col: .... "That's McDonalds... and then some!!"

(V):Actually, you have made a good point.Sponsorship could help defray the costs of war.Imagine missiles with company logos, or strategic undertakings such as " the surge" being brought to you by American Express

The Col: I think the neo cons will have to settle for solar powered spy planes at the mo.. but soon maybe they can have coca cola powered No. 5's!!

(V): Solar powered robot soldiers would please both the neo cons and the tree huggers

Bwild: A new system of generating green power has just been announced in the UK. It's a form of wave where salt water is pumped into a reservoir which allows it to be used in a hydro electric means.

.. A new type of nanotec for solar which makes them self repairing. Also that soon we might be able to top up batteries with a sugary liquid.

Tuesday: Nope.. I've heard of sadder.

when clinton was pres...they had bin laden in the crosshairs,but because laden was with arab emissaries,,he didnt order to execute ....should we blame 911 on clinton?

vote green america!

.. but the pastor does not care.

A small minority church in the USA plans to burn 200 Qur'ans on the anniversary of 9/11 in a stand against Islam. The top US commander in Afghanistan warned troops' lives would be in danger if the Dove World Outreach Center in Florida went ahead.

... I think the church with only an attendance of about 50 wants to boost it's congregation through this action...... sad.

The Col: Same over here in the UK.. It's usual that the party (or parties) voted in lose popularity after the election. After all.. no-one really likes politicians.. just we haven't got a better system at the moment.

Artful Dodger: Historically speaking, losing ground in both the senate and congress is typical for the political party in power.They will lose seats, but two months is enough time to close the gap

Artful Dodger: He has lots of time to rebound, St Ronny didn't become popular until the assassination attempt

http://crooksandliars.com/media/play/wmv/18064/


From Forbes:

"The GOP’s constant kneejerk rejection of economic ideas simply for the sake of Saying No has as much to do with our current malaise as anything being done wrong in the White House. The newly-minted fiscal conservatives on the Republican side of the aisle, many of whom are themselves responsible for the $3 trillion and counting Iraq War, are like the old men in the Muppet Show who heckle from the balcony.

It’s naysaying for naysaying’s sake at this point and I hope voters will remember that their favorite Republican All-Stars are equally complicit in the crime that is 15 million unemployed 3 years into a recession"


http://blogs.forbes.com/streettalk/2010/09/06/gop-offers-heckling-as-economic-solution/?boxes=businesschannelsections

Bernice: politicians never seem to learn. Republicans here better get it right or they will be out next too!

Australia has a new Government. Julia Gillard is on her way to Govt. House to be sworn in as our PM. We have a Labour Government and now you will see the ROT really set in over here :(.
Probably as in the past Labour will send the country into massive debt and we will all suffer for it.
Ce sera, sera ...I guess

Inconvenient Truth: 10 Times More Hate Crimes Against Jews Than Muslims

<span>from NewsBusters.org - Exposing Liberal Media Bias <span>by <span>Noel Sheppard

you don't think for yourself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUQI5PzKPPs&feature=channel

Caution: NOT for the faint of heart (that only applies to liberals)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBrWEOJo3s4&feature=player_embedded

How's that Iranian outreach working out Barry?
Rick Moran
The Iranian government is paying a bounty to the Taliban in Afghanistan for each dead American.

MSNBC reports:

Iran is paying Taliban fighters $1,000 for each U.S. soldier they kill in Afghanistan, according to a report in a British newspaper.

The Sunday Times described how a man it said was a "Taliban treasurer" had gone to collect $18,000 from an Iranian firm in Kabul, a reward it said was for an attack in July which killed several Afghan government troops and destroyed an American armored vehicle.

The treasurer left with the cash hidden in a sack of flour, the newspaper said, and then gave it to Taliban fighters in the province of Wardak. In the past six months, the treasurer claimed to have collected more than $77,000 from the company.

The Sunday Times said its investigation had found that at least five Kabul-based Iranian companies were secretly passing funds to the Taliban.

The newspaper's correspondent, Miles Amoore, said he met and interviewed the treasurer, who he said had been an illiterate farmer who was taught to read and write, plus basic accountancy, by the Taliban last winter.

"We don't care who we get money from," the treasurer was quoted as saying. He described the relationship with Iran as a "marriage of convenience." Iran is a predominantly Shiite country, while the Taliban is dominated by Sunni Muslims.

"Iran will never stop funding us because Americans are dangerous for them as well. I think the hatred is the same from both us and Iran. The money we get is not dirty. It is for jihad," the treasurer told Amoore.

Gee...just think how bad it would have been if our fearless leader hadn't groveled at the mullah's feet, begging them to like us?

White House panicking over elections
Rick Moran
Politico's Jim VandeHei on Face the Nation:

With many polls indicating the Republicans may win back control of the House of Representatives (and possibly the Senate as well) in the upcoming mid-term elections, Jim VandeHei, the executive editor of Politico, told CBS' "Face the Nation" that the Obama administration is in a horrible position.

"Does the White House understand this?" asked guest host Harry Smith. "Do you feel any sense of panic or concern" on the part of the administration?

"They get it. There's panic. There's concern," VandeHei said. "The reality for this administration stinks, politically and practically, when it comes to the economy. You're not going to be able to change that 9.6-percent unemployment figure. You can't get anything from Congress in the next couple of months."

CBS Congressional correspondent Nancy Cordes said the Democrats are distancing themselves from President Obama.

"Not only are they running away from President Obama, they're running away from being Democrats in some cases. In some races you actually see the Democratic candidates not really mentioning that they're a Democrat in their campaign ads," Cordes said.

According to a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Monday, the GOP leads the Democrats by 7 points on the "generic ballot" question, 52 percent to 45 percent. That 7-point advantage is up from a 3-point margin last month.

The generic ballot question asks respondents if they would vote for a Democrat or Republican in their congressional district, without naming any specific candidates.

"The survey indicates that independents and voters who dislike both parties are starting to break toward the GOP," says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. "In a year when anger at incumbents is a dominant political force, the key to the election lies among those who aren't rooting for either side."

According to the poll, the two parties are equally unpopular. Forty-nine percent of all Americans have an unfavorable view of the Democrats, with the same percentage feeling the same way about the Republicans. Just over one in five questioned dislike both parties.

Back in April, Americans who dislike both parties appeared to mildly favor the GOP on the generic ballot, by a 43-to-39 percent margin, with a large number saying at the time that they would pick a minor-party candidate or stay at home.

"Now, a lot of those voters appear to be bolting to the GOP," Holland said. "Republicans now have a whopping 38-point advantage on the generic ballot among voters who dislike both parties."