Artful Dodger: so now I am also uninformed....ya know...you guys and your left side right side,liberal,conservative....what if by chance I just don't happen to fall into any of your lil steriotypes?? I AM a democrat...WHO says I am a liberal right winged one?? you?? Chuck?? WHO said I HATED BUSH from DAY ONE?? you?? Chuck??? because I surely didn't.so you say I don't need a spreadsheet,I don't need to mail you some documents,WHAT do you want?? what do you want!? I think my opinions ARE rational...but wtf do I know anyways,huh? NOTHING I say you will be happy with...you nit pick EVERYTHING to death.I want YOU to show ME some rationale to Bush's desisions in his favor.Guess what....you can and I still would probably NOT agree with them...so where does that leave us?? back to square one.