*** i was going to edit/delete this and decided against it because i believe (maybe wrongly)that this is absolutely ON TOPIC*** and should be addressed by management:)
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you say they are (his) tournaments...of course they are....
but to offer prizes, get people in under false pretenses and then launch it with no offer of a prize is surely unethical.

4 tournaments that I know of have offered prizes and if you look at them running or whatever you wont see too much...
(1) backgammon race - prize offered 50 brains
(2) backgammon 6 months membership
(3) backgammon THE LARGEST PRIZE etc etc
(4) the $10,000 that never got past the first day

this is false advertising and very unethical, and should be controlled.....

When prizes are offered (by ANYONE) they should be paid up front before the tournament is even opened to the public....that way people can see that it is genuine.

This is happeneing far too much on here and it is giving a bad name on other game sites...all are talking :(

Edited...deleted...waste of time :)

Bernice: ..'there seem to be a lot of posts deleted...'

Not by me, Bernice. I haven't deleted anything for a while. A quick look at the posts here and it seems to me that there's nothing that needs deleting.
Some of you have a problem with one of LongJohn's tournaments.
The fact remains, whatever the morality of the situation, it is LongJohn's tournament - he is the creator and can control it as he likes.

AD: it's not necessary to remove your post. :-)

Which one, children?

did someone speak??

Molly just asked me about lots of backgammon games that have appeared on her main page and the games have NO TOURNAMENT name...she asked did i have anything running....I told her no and I would check for her....
if you look very closely there is a teeny weeny live spot link....the Organiser of all these games appears to be someone we all know.

WOW....what a lots of posts have been deleted....makes the posts read like nonsense...Isnt there something you can do bumble?

but... My take is this. MadMonkey hit it on the head with 'no intentions of offering prize', and when the roar came to drop out, it was started before the snowball hit. (I knew it was no longer up for signup before his post, as I had just gone to remove myself. A wasted effort, it appears, as I seem to have been among those spared the need -- probably because I'm 'just too slow') Now those pawns and knights previously mentioned are henceforth stuck, with the only means of removal being Fencer. Whether or not in the end he decides to do so, Fencer really doesn't have time for all that, so the utlimate goal of harm to the site has been reached, regardless.

calling all reversi players #2 fast games for fast players :)

wheres yours?

My friend,Danoschek...is alive and well and speaks English bettr than I speak German!

Dano has died, was reincarnated, and came back speaking English.

I hope I don't offend anyone with my decision to remove LJ from this tournament. I'm really bothered by what I've read below with people being removed from his tournament. It might seem inconsistent then that I've removed him from mine but, I tried to PM him about my concerns and see that I am on his enemy's list. Odd. I've not said anything to him to warrent that. So, since he has prevented me from discussing this with him, and since there are some who have entered my tournament with whom he has ongoing issues, I have to question his motive in entering the tournament in the first place. Therefore in the interest of others and in the interest of keeping this tournament fun for all, I have removed him. I hope in doing so, and by stating my reasons, I have not offended anyone.

Bumble, if this post is innappropriate for this forum, let me know and I'll delete it. But I wanted others to know what I did so there can be no spin on my motives.

Removed me as well I see. Oh well I will not lose sleep over it.

Calling all Gammon players, its time for the next Madmonkeys 'Gammon' Stakes (3) tourny :o)

ALSO

For all the sailors out there, join in Madmonkeys 'Boat Battle' (2) tourny :o)

If you would like to be in a Prize Tournament where the only games being played are backgammon and prizes are guaranteed
You still have time to enter this tournament. There is a $5 donation which will go to brainking to enter. Prizes are $50 to the overall tournament winner and a 6 month brain knight membership to each section winner(s).
You can enter the BK Fund Raiser Prize Tournament and make your donation HERE
Thanks to all that enter and lots "O" luck.

LOL muah!!

bwild you should change your name to "The last dig"

that kinda looks like an attack...cant we play nice together? hmmmmmmmm? there are children watching you know! what ever will they think? LMAO

LJ NO IDEA why you refer to someone as my HUBBY as My husband does not play here AND FYI To anyone I never DID JOIN YOUR TOURNEY AND NEVER WANTED TO. it isnt ME you are deleting its other innocents.
If you even understood the question put to you, you wouldnt have said I was trying to cause trouble. PUT in your tourneys that it is for certain ppl only. DONT let people think it is an open tourney when it clearly isnt. IT is a tourney put on by you for a select group only. Perhaps your reasoning is you dont want certain ppl to win and get the membership. Be more specific on your tourneys but by removing innocent ppl you are only making your self look worse then you already do the a vast majority of the site now.

good point! they can only be in one tourny.

... but I also agree with you Jason that such an IMPORTANT edit to the tournament description is wrong - not this late into the tournament.

There are probable already knights & pawns entered in the tournament, and now that they are signed up will not look at the description again. Then there are going to be stuck in a long tournament (2 games per player) without the prize they thought would be there.

WELL AS I BELIEVE ONCE ITS A PRIZE ONE IT SHOULD STAY A PRIZE ONE , NOT TO DECIDE AT A LATER DATE TO CHANGE THE RULES

your right!LOL:)
Jason has the right idea...just drop out..it probably wont happen anyway.

Fencer has always said it is up to the tournament creator to remove and run their own tournament how they like.

long john ... as i belive its not a nice thing to do , to use your position as tournament creator to remove people you dont seem to like for one reason or another ....i have removed myself from your tournament . another reason for this is the fact that you have edited the description WHICH I THINK SHOULD NOT HAPPEN ..

I did not mention there was anything wrong with it at all LJ, i asked a couple of questions.

For this i have been put on LJ's enemy list (like i am worried) AND i have removed myself from your tournament LJ.
The way i see it Rose is LJ has no intention of giving the prize or running it as a prize tournament, why else keep removing people who want to play ?
He will not let it get anywhere near 200, not that it has a hope the way its going LOL.

As for BK 2.0, i wont comment on it :o)

Longjohn It has been asked many times. Why are you taking certain players out of the tourney? Do you have your favs or dont want high rated players or what? You've taken out lots of ppl with no explanation as to why you are doing this.

LJ: 2 years ROOK membership is a very generous prize to donate, BUT a couple of questions.

You have it set the tourny for a minimum of 16, but state it will only be a Prize tourny if you get 200 plus players, then it will return to a normal tourny. Personally i think that the only reason there are 71 at present is because it is such a good prize, and alot would lose interest if it was only a normal one (being 2 games switched as well). Players need more time, as there is so much going on at present.

Also you have set it for closing date March 31st.
You are on vacation at the end of March and all of April.
Is there a reason for March 31st ??
Why not give players (pawns & Knights) that extra time (a month) to make room to join ??

Note: There is a chance that BK 2.0 may be ready by then, in which case Fencer will of course inform everyone and all Tournaments will have to be started a.s.a.p.

Aw, chattyrats! I'd hold a prize tournament just for you if I could. Only you would be allowed to enter.

Knowing you, you'd still manage to lose though! lol

Hmmmm Must be a pick an chose tourney. Only wants a certain select few. If that IS the case he shoulda just sent out special invites to the ones he wants in it!

I too had signed up.. but then my name vanished.... (i am sure?)

Hi Jason and Rose.Rose has it correct,Thanks Rose for clearifying that point for me!

Hi Jason, I think his point is he keeps entering himself an his dad in to it but LJ keeps removing him from it. He just wants to know why

i think you have the two tournaments mixed up universal , the two year rook membership one is free to enter (i do believe )

Why do you keep deleting UNIVERSAL EYES and my Father MASTERMIND from the Tournament.I think i deserve an explanation,I will send Rose the Money ahead of time to create the biggest Prize Tournament on BK AND WILL MAKE SURE THERE IS NO DONATIONS FOR THE TOURNAMENT,Because as i explained it will be paid for by me in advance,regard less how many People join it will be a Garanted Prize.Money up front to Fencer,that is how you help the best Game site on the net.I deserve an explanation,and am waiting for it!!!

AIRCRAFT ENTHUSIASTS ...come and join this new fellowship

Like yours??
Probably cos he got noone sign up for it, he may off if it wasnt so close to Linda s one being up

I don't see the tourney listed anywhere.... Is this a real one?

Gothics was for money to go to Brainking :o)

So what was your 10000 dollar tourny all about LJ?
I cant ask PM cos you stuck me on enemy LOL is it cos I can see through you and your schemes??

The problem with this is if people use the donation page and send fencer $5 (US or Euro wasnt specified?) Fencer only gets two of it. Was this discussed first with Fencer Gothic? Kind of a waste of folks money if fencer only gets 2 outta the 5. This is why Harley an Linda are taking money directly for Lindas tourney then forwarding it all to fencer so then he only loses a few bucks outta all of it! not for every donation

What it looks like to me is the $5 to play in the tournament is to be donated directly to BrainKing (Fencer) - where then Fencer will let Gothic know the persons ID. (So Gothic does not see any of the money himself)

Then as an extra bonus, if 100 people donate, he will put up the money himself to the winners. (But you are correct that he will probable get the $1,000 himself) :-)

The previously BIGGEST Prize tournament, Gothic's $250 Prize tournament is still moving along.

I aint got space for you to show them Ughaibu, mines too full up with fellowship tournies :oS
managed to keep post on topic look LOL

Congratulations to Pioneer54 for winning Line4 in the Brotherly Love (Beginners) tournament. :)