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21. 8月 2013, 16:35:28
happyjuggler0 
件名: Re: Undoing a move within 3 or so minutes.
jadarite: I just want to move my piece where it was intended.

No one is stopping you from doing so right now under the current set up. You can wait 3 minutes after making your move before hitting "submit".

To be honest if Fencer was still reading these boards he would say that it is a waste of programming time to make the proposed changes.

I would agree with him too; there are much better ways for him to modify this site for the better than changing the site for the worse because someone has poor impulse control.

21. 8月 2013, 17:24:58
Justaminute 
件名: Re: Undoing a move within 3 or so minutes.
happyjuggler0: Agreed. And the current situation is no different from letting go of your piece completes your move in competitive over the board games. Irrespective of whether your opponent is looking.

22. 8月 2013, 06:15:33
deleeeeeete 
件名: Re: Undoing a move within 3 or so minutes.
Justaminute: "And the current situation is no different from letting go of your piece completes your move in competitive over the board games."

It is different. In a competitive over the board game, you wouldn't be making moves on a computer like here. If I were playing a competitive over the board game, I would have just moved the piece that I intended to move and WOULD NOT have made a clerical mistake on the computer.

22. 8月 2013, 10:15:50
Hrqls 
件名: Re: Undoing a move within 3 or so minutes.
jadarite: i understand the difference between putting a move into the computer, or playing directly on the computer

there is even a difference between playing on the computer or on a phone. people tend to submit moves faster (without checking) on phones (in my experience)

the question is: suppose there is a undo mechanism here .. in which you can undo a move in about 30 seconds .. would you go back to each game after you submitted the move? in case of the action of going back, you could change that action into checking before submitting the move .. each is an extra action you have to perform, and each can be forgotten as easily

i had to change my gameplay as well: in the past i used the mouse to click on 'cancel this move' when i didnt want ... i especially use that in froglet games in which i view the board as it would be after i made the move, before i submit the move .... i accidently clicked on submit instead of cancel a few times .... after that i am not using the backspace key on my keyboard to go back (and cancel) and use the mouse to submit my move, so i wont accidently use the wrong action (although they are clearly separated on this site i sometimes click too fast :))

22. 8月 2013, 11:00:21
deleeeeeete 
件名: Re: Undoing a move within 3 or so minutes.
Hrqls: The point is to allow a "draft" mode. When you type a draft email, it is not sent. You can come back to it later. That's ideally what I want. The clock has not stopped ticking, but I have a move I am interested in making. If I am multitasking, I could then come back and double check (no pun intended). If the move is still sound and then I can send it like a draft letter to be sent later. The opponent would never see the proposed draft move. So, it's not like taking back a move.

22. 8月 2013, 11:12:52
Hrqls 
件名: Re: Undoing a move within 3 or so minutes.
jadarite: ah i now see what you mean ... that would be useful indeed ... often in chess types i think about a move, but cant decide yet before real life kicks in again and drags me away from brainking ... when i finally have time again to get back to brainking i have to restart the thinking, which i might not have to do when they move would have been saved but not submitted

is that what you mean ?

22. 8月 2013, 12:16:18
deleeeeeete 
件名: Re: Undoing a move within 3 or so minutes.
Hrqls: "is that what you mean ?"

The conclusion is the same, but for a different reason. I agree that your point is also valid which gives this more credence.

You are saying you can rethink the move and I am saying I typed in the wrong move. So I want to edit it. Imagine a writer for a newspaper. The editor comes along before it is published. I want to be able to edit clerical mistakes.

I am not really thinking about the game. I am not pondering other moves. I am not planning ahead. I am just double checking to see if the move I inputted was actually the move I made on my own chess board at home.

I am playing 3 games of Japanese chess now. One is lower level, one is higher level it seems, and the other is probably closer to my level. So, it is a shame we can play that game with intended moves. I don't want to resign because I couldn't correct my move. However, I feel this is a waste.

This opponent and I are a good match. I am more interested in playing a decent game than a game with moves that were not entered in correctly.

If a chess magazine or article put in a wrong move from yesterday's grandmaster tournament, wouldn't an editor come along and correct this mistake when it was found out the move was not actually played?

That's essentially what is happening besides me being a grandmaster, lol. I made a move. Then, I went to the computer and I made a different move.

So, all I want is the option to correct it and reflect the move I actually made on the board before I entered the other one on the computer.

22. 8月 2013, 12:39:10
Hrqls 
件名: Re: Undoing a move within 3 or so minutes.
jadarite: if that is is just what you want, and your reasons for it, then i suggest to make a habit of checking your move before hitting the submit button .. you can move your move, recheck it, double check it, ..., and then hit submit (or cancel)

22. 8月 2013, 12:53:45
deleeeeeete 
件名: Re: Undoing a move within 3 or so minutes.
Hrqls: The submit button is the only option. There is no "check back later button".

22. 8月 2013, 13:51:19
Hrqls 
件名: Re: Undoing a move within 3 or so minutes.
jadarite: there is the "cancel this move" button

i like the idea of Aganju: save the link as a favorite, click on "cancel this move" and revisit the favorite link later to complete the move for real

22. 8月 2013, 13:54:21
deleeeeeete 
件名: Re: Undoing a move within 3 or so minutes.
Hrqls:

So, in other words you support my idea but until it is implemented you are saying the remedy is to do something else which amounts to exactly what I was suggesting.

22. 8月 2013, 13:55:14
Hrqls 
件名: Re: Undoing a move within 3 or so minutes.
jadarite: if it works then it might be the best solution :)

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