BrainKing - 掲示板 (Languages)

Hi. I know that words "been" and "bin" have different pronounciations. Now, in movies or generally spoken english I fail to notice any difference between them. Is there still a difference there or am I right in thinking that in fast and connected speech, 'bin' and 'been' are pronounced exactly the same?

17. ８月 2006, 00:49:46

Carl

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King Reza: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_differences Just because it's in the "movies" does'nt make it true.Try this,i hope it clears a few things up.

17. ８月 2006, 13:09:35

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Carl:That's why I was asking! I as a non-native speak English far better than some of the guys in American movies.

Thanks for the link.

17. ８月 2006, 08:25:39

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King Reza: Not really.... think of been like the name Ben, rhymes with den, hen, fen...

bin rhymes with tin sin pin, you get the idea...
anyway, even in fast connected speech, these words are clearly discernible to the native ear.

17. ８月 2006, 13:18:16

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Czuch Czuckers: Very interesting. I have indeed noticed that some people have their own special accent. Some pronounce certain vowels shorter than other people do, some pronounce them longer. Thanks for the examples.

17. ８月 2006, 13:35:23

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King Reza: Where I am from,, in new england, and especially in the far north east of new england in Maine, we are famous for not pronouncing our 'Rs'in many words.

For example the word 'car' is often pronounced as 'cah'
There is a good sentence we use.... 'Pahk your cah in havahd yahd' to illistrate this point!

Also the 'er' ending in words is often pronounced more like 'ah', as in mothah or fathah.
Anyway, just one more challenge for the non native speaker ;)

17. ８月 2006, 13:40:24

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Czuch Czuckers:I thought you were American! Yes, I'm very familiar with the British accent. I used to have major problems understanding even what the whole sentence pronounced was about, but I've gotten quite used to it. In fact, I always use Oxford Advanced Learners and think it gives better pronunciations for words. Just checked' Been' with it. It says:

Been: /bi:n/ or AmE: /bin/

Bin: /bin/

So I think I was somehow right.

17. ８月 2006, 14:09:26

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King Reza: lmao..... new England is the north east states in the US! Maine new Hampshire Vermont Rhode island massachusetts and Connecticut. Maine is the farthest north and east of them all.

17. ８月 2006, 14:31:41

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Czuch Czuckers:Ok, now I'm confused. Do people in the States drop 'r' sounds just like British people?
Do you have intrusive R's too?

Like do you ever say something like "Law r and order?"

17. ８月 2006, 08:31:39

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King Reza: I guess though, you may have heard someone with a 'southern accent' who spoke with what we call a drawl, and they may pronounce the word been to sound like bin....

17. ８月 2006, 15:11:38

Pedro Martínez

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King Reza: Read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_accent

18. ８月 2006, 20:46:20