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25. 8月 2006, 14:26:30
crosseyed_uk 
件名: Re: Slow players.
Why do some players take on too many games? I have a player who is on line at the same time as me but never makes a move in our games. When I asked why they did not make any moves I was told this very sad story. They also told me they have 500 games on the go. No wonder they are not making any moves in some games. I think tournament games should be restricted to people like that as they hold up the tournament. I see another player is also not making any moves in my games(vacation time) but are making moves in other games. This is the same tournament game. Is this bad sportsmanship on their part? Since I was doing well in the tournament I can only conclude it is bad sportsmanship.

25. 8月 2006, 15:08:29
Adaptable Ali 
件名: Re: Slow players.
crosseyed:

25. 8月 2006, 16:52:33
toedder 
件名: Re: Slow players.
crosseyed: How is it bad sportsmanship? Calm down, people! You have unlimited game slots! Why do you care about two(!) players moving "too" slow? Just start a few games against faster players ;)
Players can move as slow as the time limit rules for the specific game allow them. DEAL WITH IT! If you can't, don't join the tournaments with slow time limits. Or simply create your own faster tournaments...

25. 8月 2006, 16:55:05
aissi 
件名: Re: Slow players.
Mr. Shumway:

25. 8月 2006, 19:51:24
crosseyed_uk 
件名: Re: Slow players.
crosseyed_uk (25. 8月 2006, 20:33:58)に変更されました。
Mr. Shumway: I certainly will not be joining anymore slow, long and drawn out tournament games.
I still think it is dumb to take on tournament games when they already have far too many games on the go and cannot keep up with making moves in games.
I am entitled to my opinion(s) and much as you are entitled to yours. I am also allowed to air my opinions too.
I understand your reaction now, I see you have 460 games started. I guess you must be one of those people that I am complaining about.

25. 8月 2006, 20:30:27
Retep 
件名: Re: Slow players.
Retep (25. 8月 2006, 20:31:28)に変更されました。
crosseyed:
It's not about opinions, it's about rules. You agree to the rules of a tournament (and the time limit is one of these rules) at the moment you sign up. Because of that it's not ok to complain about the rules later.

Anyway, you'll win the tournament some months later.. I recently won a tournament which was actually over in February. That's no problem to me.

25. 8月 2006, 20:37:44
crosseyed_uk 
件名: Re: Slow players.
crosseyed_uk (25. 8月 2006, 20:45:41)に変更されました。
Retep: When I signed up I guess I did not take much notice of the rules. I still think people take on far too many games.
Since I do not take on too many games I like to at least play the existing games in present time and complete them.

26. 8月 2006, 09:10:26
MadMonkey 
件名: Re: Slow players.
crosseyed: My personal view is that Pawns are the only people who should moan about 'Slow players', they do not have the option to just start another game like Members do (and yes, i know they could become Members if they wished).
I know of a tourny running for a year now that only has 12 players in 3 sections. One game is still holding one section up, then the next round will start lol (at least its a Fellowship one, and not for Pawns).
If players only want games over quick, surely the answer is simple, look at the time limit before playing the game or Tournament

26. 8月 2006, 12:15:55
crosseyed_uk 
件名: Re: Slow players.
crosseyed_uk (26. 8月 2006, 12:24:26)に変更されました。
MadMonkey:Re: Quote: If players only want games over quick, surely the answer is simple, look at the time limit before playing the game or Tournament Unquote.

Yes, I know that now but I am fairly new to Tournament games. I still think it is stupid for someone to take on 500 games and not be able to makes moves.

26. 8月 2006, 12:20:01
MadMonkey 
件名: Re: Slow players.
crosseyed: I thought thats what i put ??

26. 8月 2006, 12:23:47
crosseyed_uk 
件名: Re: Slow players.
crosseyed_uk (26. 8月 2006, 12:24:54)に変更されました。
MadMonkey: I quoted your statement since I did not respond to all your message.
And I still think it is bad sportsmanship to deliberately hold games up.

26. 8月 2006, 12:34:52
MadMonkey 
件名: Re: Slow players.
crosseyed: I agree that people should not hold up Tournaments, the point is are they doing it on purpose or maybe just dont have the time to make all there moves, whether they have 10, 100 or 500 games.

The problem is that if a player has his game listed in Time left order, if he moves in a 1 day game, and the opponent is online and moves, that will go back to near the top of his next game to play. Therefore all other games will just carry on waiting.

26. 8月 2006, 12:46:43
crosseyed_uk 
件名: Re: Slow players.
MadMonkey: I list my games in time order and when possible if any players are on line at the same time as me I play those games.

26. 8月 2006, 11:16:37
Walter Montego 
件名: Re: Slow players.
crosseyed: Try Fischer Clock timed games with a bonus of 1 to 2 days. I've found these limits move along and yet also give you time off when needed. Fast players move fast and it doesn't matter. Slower players will still need to make 8 moves in 10 days with these limits over the course of the game and will also be able to miss a few days.

Someting like this:
3 to 5 day start, 7 to 15 day maximum, and bonus of 1 day 6 hours.

26. 8月 2006, 12:20:31
crosseyed_uk 
件名: Re: Slow players/Fischer Clock
Walter Montego: I did play some games with the Fischer Clock and through no fault of my own got timed out on several games.
There are times when I am unable to get access to this site. Last night was an example when I could not access this site.

27. 8月 2006, 17:52:29
Walter Montego 
件名: Re: Slow players/Fischer Clock
crosseyed: I'm still trying to get a feel for the Fischer Clock timed games. You have to check out the timing and bonus amounts. There are so many different ways to time a game. If the bonus is short and you and your opponent don't move fast, you can easily time out. IF the bonus is very long, then it really doesn't matter much. Same thing if the maximum is more than a couple of weeks. When the bonus is between a day or two and the maximum under 15 days, you can have the game move fairly fast and still not be pressured into moving daily. A bonus of 1 day 6 hours works good for me and will still allow slower moving players to enjoy a game without it affecting those players that like to move faster.

28. 8月 2006, 00:26:53
crosseyed_uk 
件名: Re: Fischer Clock
Walter Montego:It is too confusing for me lol.

28. 8月 2006, 04:06:35
Bwild 
件名: Re: Slow players/Fischer Clock
Walter Montego: AS you and a few others have pointed out, there ARE alternatives to prevent being captured by a slow player or two.
In the 3 plus years that I've been here...this is a constant complaint by a few members. It really gets old to continually hear about this...when so many measures have been taken to help the ones who feel their human rights have been violated because someone has the nerve to use their full time limit.
New rope comes to mind.

28. 8月 2006, 10:30:14
crosseyed_uk 
件名: Re: Slow players/Fischer Clock
crosseyed_uk (28. 8月 2006, 14:17:11)に変更されました。
Bwild: Yes you may have 'heard' it all before. I do not feel my human rights have been violated that is carrying it a bit too far. But it is so stupid that someone has 500 games on the go and cannot find time to make moves. I really think people should be named and shamed. Then when they next take on a Tournament game hopefully the creators will not select them.

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