well now i told the person i'm playing one of the games with about my problem about not being able to see the pieces and they have webtv too but they can see the pieces....so it's either just my machine or a certain brand or type of webtv that can't load the game properly...i'm gonna delete the one game because i don't see any reason in playing a game with that big of a disadvantage and i was wondering if you could delete my other one because i already made 2 moves and don't have that option anymore....i guess i just can't play that game here with my machine.....thanks again