Iamon lyme: Don't worry, there will be plenty of candidates to fill that roll for the Republicans next election.... no need for jealousy that the Democrats can find a better idiot.

... maybe the Republicans need to change from good idiot and bad idiot to 'thinker/idiot'

What do you think??

Artful Dodger: I hoped you would get it!! lol

Artful Dodger: "Biden had something else in mind."

They always have something else in mind. That's why politicians like him end up becoming confused. The problem is that as they get older the machinations of their own minds become harder to manage... they can literally lose control of their own mental processes. My mental processes on the other hand are quite simple, so there is very little that can go wrong.

I came, I saw, I farted... how hard can that be?

Iamon lyme: if the average man tried to get out of debt and borrowed say, 100,000 to pay off his 100,000 debt, he'd still be in debt for 100,000 dollars. I did that once to lower the interest rate an to go from a 30 to a 15. But when you lower the interest you pay you are lowering your debt. Biden had something else in mind.

Artful Dodger: "To spend more we have to borrow, thus putting us in more debt. So to summarise, to get out of debt we have to get more debt."

That might make some sense if we were borrowing to pay down the debt, but as you say they are doing it so they will have more to spend. The powers that be don't seem concerned about paying off any of that debt right now.

I tried something like that a long time ago. I borrowed against my next allowance, but then got less allowance on my next 'payday'. I didn't like that at all, but I was only eight or nine years old at the time.

Iamon lyme: we have to remember that Biden told people that the way to pay off the US debt is to spend more money.

To spend more we have to borrow, thus putting us in more debt.

So to summarise, to get out of debt we have to get more debt.

(V): Obama and Biden are a team, and it's Joes job to make his boss look good by comparison. Good luck with that, Joe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4-AKcH3eC8

(V): One video does not make Biden an idiot.... ... ... that takes years of practice!!

(V): [ One video does not make Biden an idiot.... ... ... that takes years of practice !! ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWlSX9TT2eo

Artful Dodger: stand correctly, point, squeeze trigger.

... Aim big, hit big.

I was allowed to shoot them as a scout of 14.... they are easy.... and at short range far better than a AR15. Which, was designed for the battlefield.

"He's telling rookies they are easier than the AR15. He's an idiot."

Yes they are. One video does not make Biden an idiot.... ... ... that takes years of practice!! ;P

(V): Biden is telling women who have never owned a shotgun to buy one. He's telling people who've never shot one how easy they are to use. We're not talking about experienced users, we're talking about rookies. He's telling rookies they are easier than the AR15. He's an idiot.

Artful Dodger: No.... they clearly show people who've never fired one before or have not heard that they kick.

Woooppeeee.

Farmers mums can handle them as this video demonstrates..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ka5pedLmLs

Or as this police training video shows..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cun-LZvOTdw

(V): They clearly show that using a shotgun isn't "easy" as Biden suggest. He's an idiot.

Artful Dodger: The video demonstrates alot of wrong techniques, including cherry picking video moments.

Come on.. I expect better evidence off you!! ;)

(V): the video demonstrates they are not easy to use. If you know how to use one yes. Biden is still an idiot.

Artful Dodger: A double barrelled one... scare the poop out of most as they do tend to cut you to pieces if hit by one. More effective than a pistol for home defence, less need to be 'accurate'.

Iamon lyme: Just put Yes Minister or Yes Prime Minister in on youtube. Plenty there :P

Biden's self-defense advice to the women of America - "Buy a shotgun!" J...: http://youtu.be/Gj-WcafGjbM via @youtube

World's Biggest Fart - The Hippo: http://youtu.be/PSKQ3ZNQ_O8 via @youtube

(V): [ Does one have the ability to watch old UK TV shows such as "Yes Minister" or "Yes Prime Minister"?? ]

Probably, if I had cable or satellite, but I don't watch much television so any UK programing I get is whatever is shown on the Public Broadcasting System (PBS).

(V): [ No... the link was a mobile version...didna work. ]

Didn't work for me either, so I copied and pasted the title... World's Biggest Fart - The Hippo ...into the youtube search engine and it took me to the video.

Artful Dodger: Reminds me of this incident. It was a live TV children's show :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_Cj2TtFd_E

Iamon lyme: I like what the daily show said about the recent deadline... everyone was on holiday.

"a charge of racism is leveled by someone wielding power and influence to attack a police officer, who did nothing wrong. No politician in his right mind would try pulling a stunt like this."

Don't know the case. Usually politicians don't make public statements like that unless they have some idea.

... Then again..... ..... No, usually that's when they skip around the subject. UK politics is a case of reading between the lines.

And slagging each other off, blaming each other, part histories...

.... .... Does one have the ability to watch old UK TV shows such as "Yes Minister" or "Yes Prime Minister"??

Artful Dodger: No... the link was a mobile version...didna work.

Iamon lyme: fertilizer spreader

Ego pedere ergo sum

Artful Dodger: Did you see what his tail was doing? It looked like a propeller!

Iamon lyme: It shook my computer!

Artful Dodger: "Hey did ya watch the hippo fart?"

Yep... watched AND heard him.

(V): "So.. stating something that has been seen to be true in many cases"

But in this case (the one I was talking about) a charge of racism is leveled by someone wielding power and influence to attack a police officer, who did nothing wrong. No politician in his right mind would try pulling a stunt like this, but this is who we have had as president for 4 years and will have for another four.

But at least he's not hiding under his desk, and has learned how to hide in plain sight. He's been running around complaining that Republicans won't work with him, but refuses to sit down to actually meet with them... to work with him. (?) And when Republicans submit a budget or anything they've authored Harry Reed just sits on it... like a hen sitting on an egg.

Maybe it's a game, and the Republicans are supposed to chase after Obama... and if we catch him, then he'll sit down and pretend to seriously negotiate in good faith. Yeah, that must be it... he's playing the 'catch me if you can' game.

(V): Hey did ya watch the hippo fart?

Iamon lyme: Depends on who the appeased are. The Nazi's, Iranians, Egyptians, various South American governments who are supported and placed despite being nasty bully killer types.

"He criticised the police for being racist, then held a news meeting with both sides for the purpose of repairing his own image."

So.. stating something that has been seen to be true in many cases. .... .... The Met police in the UK was found to be institutionally racist.... it's being "robustly" dealt with, but that word "robustly" seems to be the in word at the moment for meaning jack.

Artful Dodger: nooo.... I'll pick some sentences and put one or two of his in the mix.

(V): I'd know the difference. But give me some examples of his statements.

The Col: Obama is a showman and everyone likes a good show.

Iamon lyme: reWho are you referring to when you say "This part of the world"?

I can't speak for the rest of the world, only the section I inhabit.The opinions here were positive when he toured during the election.I guess you have a different perspective.

The Col: "This part of the world enjoyed it, and found it refreshing ..I don't think anyone considered it an "apology tour" other than Republicans"

Who are you referring to when you say "This part of the world"?

Of course only Republicans would call it an apology tour... and only Democrats would see it as something that can improve relations between the US and people who regard the US as their enemies. After all, when has a policy of appeasement ever NOT worked?

World to you:

This part of the world enjoyed it, and found it refreshing ..I don't think anyone considered it an "apology tour" other than Republicans

Obama started off embarrassing himself (and us) by going on his world apology tour, and interjecting himself into news stories that have nothing to do with his job as president. Like the time he commented on a black professor who ran afoul of the law. He criticised the police for being racist, then held a news meeting with both sides for the purpose of repairing his own image. But now he's settled into doing what he does best, making speeches to promote what his party wants. I think this is mostly what he will be doing from here on out. It's either that or hide under his desk for the next four years.

I thought Obama was Carter on steroids, but it's actually the other way around. The difference between Carter and Obama is like the difference between watching a train wreck in real time and watching it in slow motion. Carter created so much havoc in so little time it shocked the voters into making a drastic change. Obama on the other hand just plods along, putting himself in front of the cameras so as to keep us busy focused on peripheral issues.

Republicans have made the mistake of thinking they need to do more than simply hold the line. They will probably lose more ground than they will gain in the next four years no matter what they do, but at least voters will be able to clearly see where the Democrats are taking them...and they will have to decide for themselves if that's where they (the voters) want to go.

Artful Dodger: Dennis Prager statements could apply to all major parties in the USA.. replace lefty with righty and no-one would know the difference.

I pick on that point.

At least you don't have a situation where you've got Silvio Berlusconi running again. You'd think being on trial for sex with underage prostitutes and tax fraud would mean he ineligible.

Iamon lyme: I've already patented a removal of nappy mess system. I bought a load of non used mechanical meat stripping machines (the ones who strip meat of carcases) to recover baby poo. Then it is processed into fertiliser.

Iamon lyme:

Artful Dodger: No kidding, you would be surprised at some of the "technology" that has been pirated by the 'you know who'... It's not just the high end stuff. A few years ago someone in California went to court to sue (to sue who, the Chinese government?) over a particular type of packing material and design he developed for packaging electronics. He discovered the same packaging material and design was showing up in US markets, but it wasn't his stuff.

But that's not what I wanted to talk about. I had something important to say about farts, but if we keep this up they might have to rename this the Gorgeous Men Farts board.

Iamon lyme: I can do blue or red farts and if I squeeze fast they join together for purple.

(V): "...my idea of an eco green fart deposit station..."

What?!?!? Harvesting green farts was MY idea!! I knew I should have patented it, but I was afraid the Chinese would steal my idea once they found out about it.

My next project is to make and capture rainbow colored farts...

(V): I don't listen to beck. I like http://www.marklevinshow.com/home.asp and http://www.michaelmedved.com/ with a special affinity towards http://www.dennisprager.com/.

Don't pick on them or else!

(V): yep I did. But I know better now!

(V): the US is currently imploding this time!