(V): "As money makers they are allowed to rip people off."

"LG Display.. to pay $380m"
"Samsung paid $240m"
"Toshiba is to pay $21m"
"AU Optronics is to pay $170m."

You posted these facts, not me.

Iamon lyme: Yes, I know I did... The big hint that I did was that those figures were in my post.

"You make it sound as though they got away with it."

They did for ten years.

"some people will try to cheat and get away with it. Is that really such a big surprise?"

Nope. Just another one in the long list of cheating companies.

I'm still waiting for a list from a conservative on this board on what we can blame on businesses.

Cheating customers seems to be one!!

(V): "I'm still waiting for a list from a conservative on this board on what we can blame on businesses."

You can blame them for the food you eat.
You can blame them for the clothes you wear.
You can blame them for the materials and labor that went into making your home.
You can blame them for your computer and for easy access to the internet. (I blame them for that)

Those are just a few examples. There's plenty of blame to go around, and no end to the products and services we can complain about.


By the way, do you grow your own food and make your own clothes? Did you build your own home and do you generate your own electricity? Did some kid build a computer in his garage and then give it to you?

Iamon lyme: .....

"You can blame them for the food you eat."

Mcdonalds has a lot to answer for regarding the obesity problem.

"You can blame them for the clothes you wear."

The use of sweat shops, child labour deaths?

"You can blame them for the materials and labor that went into making your home."

Asbestos? The NHBC 10 year guarantee being worthless??

"You can blame them for your computer and for easy access to the internet. (I blame them for that)"

uh uh.. the internet easiness was invented by someone working at CERN. IE a government paid scientist.

"By the way, do you grow your own food"

Yes.. not all.

"Did some kid build a computer in his garage and then give it to you?"

No I built it.

(V): "Mcdonalds has a lot to answer for regarding the obesity problem."

I blame McDonnalds for my weight problem. I never go there, but it's all their fault... I blame Bush too.

"The use of sweat shops, child labour deaths?"

So in other words, you support sweat shops that contribute to child labour deaths because you don't make your own clothes?

"Asbestos? The NHBC 10 year guarantee being worthless??"

You choose to live in substandard housing..

"...internet easiness was invented by someone working at CERN. IE a government paid scientist."

And today he single handedly runs all the businesses involved in making internet access available to you.


Did some kid build a computer in his garage and then give it to you?

"No I built it."

And you built all the parts and components from scratch, from rocks and dirt. And from tree branches and twigs you hand carved using a knife you made from raw iron ore heated by a fire you made from rubbing two sticks together. No evil business made anything you used to build your own computer. You even built a running wheel to generate your own electricity.

Iamon lyme: The NHBC 10 year guarantee is a supposed guarantee on new houses of all types.. including 'exclusive' builds.

"So in other words, you support sweat shops that contribute to child labour deaths because you don't make your own clothes?"

Hey.. I though I was supposed to be the twister here... now I think I'll pass the virtual crown over to you!!

"And today he single handedly runs all the businesses involved in making internet access available to you."

No... he thought of the standard system that all the businesses now use to communicate over the internet.

"And you built all the parts and components from scratch, from rocks and dirt......."

Nahhhh, But no kid built it.

"You even built a running wheel to generate your own electricity."

Nope.. that is the UK governments fault.. our electric that is. If they hadn't standardised the voltage, plug design and built the national grid...

(V): Why in the world should McDonald's be blamed for obesity?

How about PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY?

Pathetic how so many people can't take responsibility for their own bad habits. It just HAS to be SOMEONE else's fault.

Foolishness.

rod03801: Because of their advertising. Still now they make out their products are perfectly healthy in the UK.

"How about PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY?"

Many do, but some are taught to hand it over to an invisible being!!

"It just HAS to be SOMEONE else's fault. "

Like the government?

I'd say the Romans.. but unless your a Monty Python fan..

rod03801: Liberals are good at running things into the ground. They won't be satisfied until they've demolished everything. Then they will still blame everyone else for what they themselves have created. They are the party of blame.

Artful Dodger: You don't think Liberals love their country, and want what they think is best for it?

The Col: No I don't. Moderates maybe but not the progressives. They love their ideology and want only what's best for their screwed up view of the world. They want to fundamentally change America. They should move to Cuba. There's a fundamental change for ya.

Artful Dodger: How about on the reverse side, the right wing extremists?

The Col: Depends on who you mean. I know some right wingers that are the same. They want freedom for themselves but not so much for others. But if you mean the tea party, they are patriots. They want to restore the US to what we are Constitutionally. But some extreme groups just want their ideology to command regardless of laws or Constitution principles.

Artful Dodger: I meant the right wing equivilant
of my original question

The Col: Well like I said it depends on what YOU mean by right wing extremists. Using the definition I have in mine I'd say no. They don't love America. They love their screwed up ideology.

Carrying this further: Does Obama love America? No. He wants to fundamentally change American from what it is to what it is not. He can find that in Venezuela.

Artful Dodger: thanks for playing

The Col: Yer welcome. Sorry if you don't like my honesty.

Artful Dodger: I don't think I commented one way or the other on your response

The Col: Yeah well, thanks for playing. Next time you might even win.

Artful Dodger: non confrontational discussions are awkward for you it seems.You seem to always be looking for an argument

and btw, use your own material re :"thanks for playing"

The Col: oh stop. YOu always have an ulterior motives in "discussions" with me. And "thanks for playing" wasn't originated by you so bite me.

So ah, thanks for playing, again.

Artful Dodger: you're paranoid man oh man, you're answers to straight forward question should be a textbook study in paranoia

The Col:

The Col: that's paranormal to you son

Maybe you've just earned my distrust.

Artful Dodger: Dad , the family wants to stage an intervention.When mom caught you alternately laughing and crying while poking your Obama voodoo doll up in the attic, she called everyone in tears

The Col: But do you have it on video? If not, it won't stand up in court.

Artful Dodger: she dropped the camera in shame

The Col: Well I don't blame her for that! I've seen myself on film.

(V): How does paying hefty money settlements translate into them being "allowed to rip people off"? You make it sound as though they got away with it.

The only real point you can make here is that some people will try to cheat and get away with it. Is that really such a big surprise?