ketchuplover: Yes I had problems when I updated Java the other day.

crosseyed: good to know. only with update 51 or earlier versions also? I never experienced any problem with it before.

diogenysos: I upgraded internet explorer a few months ago and I suspect that is the cause. I have gone into some sites and they state that they don't recognise internet explorer. In this site I cannot use the smileys in rich text.

crosseyed: well, internet explorer is causing lots of trouble for decades - java usually not :-D

diogenysos: As it happens it did cause problem in another site as I was not the only person who had problems with Java in that site.

ketchuplover: I've had no problems with it. I think the "secret" is to uncheck that box that was there before completing the download. (I don't remember now what it was about). At POGO, the forums suggested unchecking that box, for less problems. I did uncheck it, and I've had zero issues. Possibly coincidence, though, I suppose. For some reason I practically never experience problems when other people do.