anastasia:
so now global warming doesn't exsist??

Well, yes the globe has been warming recently, if thats what you mean, but I think these days the term global warming is a generic term for permanent climate change.... and no I dont believe it is permanent nor is it not reversible.

It was a couple of years ago already when Gore told us that in 3 years it will be too late, that we had to reverse it now or it would be too late... I cant wait for the end of the 3 years to see what they will say then, when we have done almost nothing....

Tell me, how does Al Gore know for certain that a planet millions of years old has 3 years left before the tipping point of no return???

Our globe has been warming since the last ice age. and before that it was cooling, and before it cooled it was warming.. hehehehe its what this planet does, its nature, are you really suggesting that we change nature?

Yes, man does have an influence and an impact on our environment, and yes, I am all for conservation and all the carbon foot print blah blah blah, my personal carbon foot print is a lot smaller than Gores, I can guarantee you that!

You might be one who hates the big bad greedy oil companies... well believe me, there are some pretty greedy people out there ready to make billions on this global warming hype too! Dont be naive enough to think its all just conscientious people pushing this hype, there is a lot of money to be made by many pushing this thing, and its not all about saving the planet to them either.

BTW, last i heard, the ice glaciers were growing again?

Artful Dodger: So that's why both McCain and Obama both agreed that human caused climate change is real. So both right and left agree.

... No clubbing.

Artful Dodger: Are you 100% sure we have no impact on this planets weather? If that's so then why did London pass a clean air act to stop the fumes from coal fires making the sir so bad that people were dying from it... Again with London or more specifically the Thames, we polluted that river so badly that if anyone fell in it at one time it was more then likely they died from poisoning?

Artful Dodger: As I said, are you 100% sure that global warming is all hype? As you have just said we do have an impact on the planet....

Maybe those on the supreme court are not scientists, but those in the EPA are or have access to them don't they.

... And the scientists appear to be about 90% sure we are making an impact.

Also your Federal Climate Change Program commissioned By Bush states....

"....Studies ... show clear evidence of human influences on the climate system (due to changes in greenhouse gases, aerosols, and stratospheric ozone). ... The observed patterns of change over the past 50 years cannot be explained by natural processes alone, nor by the effects of short-lived atmospheric constituents (such as aerosols and tropospheric ozone) alone."

Artful Dodger: and like I had said...yes,the earth DOES cycle BUT we are overloading it...the population,the polution....hey,did anyone happen to see,there was a report,I want to say maybe Dateline or 20/20...about the most toxic place on earth?? the death rate and cancer rate was through the roof?? anyone see that to know where they were talking about?

anastasia: I think it is a place in china...you cant drink the water or breathe the air, and the children have lead? in their blood, but I cant be sure...I think it was on 60 minutes

Bernice: yes,that sounds like the part of it I heard....all kinds of birth defects and stuff??

Artful Dodger: Sorry, but the fact that CFC's were destroying the Ozone layer is a fact. There is no point in you disputing this as the chemical reactions of CFC's on ozone is well established. That's why if you (well in the UK anyway) dump your old fridge it has to be done via a special unit (rather then just putting it on a dump) to recover and dispose of the gasses in the cooling system safely.

(V): you have to dipose of them that way in the staes too...Before my Dad died,he was a heating/cooling/general contractor and I remember when he had to go to school to learn how to reclaim the freeon (sp,sorry) and he had to buy a reclaimer also,which was a VERY shiney penney or 2,lol.But yeah,you have to be a licensed tech to do that.

anastasia: I remember when all the aerosols containing cfc's were banned. It wasn't a long debate... They banned them.

(V): I also remember when they were banned...my Dad was glad of it too