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22. juni 2006, 23:08:16
CryingLoser 
Emne: Automatic for removing of tournaments
Modifisert av CryingLoser (22. juni 2006, 23:09:19)
There exist some players who are playing so slow that some of us decide to put them in the Blocked user list. Hope there will be a way to use this Blocked-user-list for the following features:
* When someone is searching tournaments, then to let hidden this tournaments where players have
joined who are on his Blocked-user-list
* When he has joined a tournament, then should work an automatic that immediately eliminates his name from the tournament in the moment
when a player of his Blocked-user-list joins in this tournament
* When the joining of a player would mean that
3 player or more would be removed from this tournament, then the automatic should prevent
the joining of this special player in the tournament

23. juni 2006, 04:13:15
Sylfest Strutle 
Emne: Re: Automatic for removing of tournaments
CryingLoser: The first two could be nice options, but I disagree with the third one. Options for individuals to avoid slow players are ok, but I don't like the idea of throwing them out for being slow. After all, they are either playing within the time limits, or punished by timing out.

23. juni 2006, 06:45:16
grenv 
Emne: Re: Automatic for removing of tournaments
whopper: If only they were punished, the auto-vac rule allows them to not be punished even while playing other games.

23. juni 2006, 13:20:08
mctrivia 
Emne: Re: Automatic for removing of tournaments
grenv: You can only take advantage of autovacation a few times a year. If they are constantly timing out they will run out quickly.

24. juni 2006, 14:12:26
CryingLoser 
Emne: Re: Automatic for removing of tournaments
Modifisert av CryingLoser (24. juni 2006, 14:24:49)
whopper:
mctrivia: If they are constantly timing out they will run out quickly.

Not to be misunderstood: i don't think the slow playing "specialists" want to make the other players angry, but they simply have started more games than they can handle. Now, for losing as few games as possible by timeout, they manage to make the most urgently moves and to use their vacation tolerance where it is possible.

Such a tournament is indeed in my mind, and without a special player it would have taken about a week, but now with the "specialist" i am afraid it will not be finished this year. Even if the specialist
will lose in the next summer ;) by timeout, the other players want much more to start the next round of the tournament than to wait a year
for getting a winning point from the specialist...

In tournaments where players are trying a new game (example Ambiguous Chess) and want to make some experiments in opening theory etc., they would be glad to see the results of their strategies this year if possible ;)
To start another tournament is no solution, coz the specialist can start thousands of games and participate in every tournament he likes.

A complete other idea for solution would be a counter for the timeout-defeats of a player in a year. The first timeout should limit his
open slots to 1000, the second to 500, etc.
until this system self-regulates the poor forecast of a "specialist" and reduces his open slots to exactly the quantity he can handle.

24. juni 2006, 16:51:54
grenv 
Emne: Re: Automatic for removing of tournaments
CryingLoser: Good idea.

How about if a vacation day automatically kicks in then you can't make any more moves for 24 hours?

24. juni 2006, 17:56:38
Eriisa 
Emne: Re: Automatic for removing of tournaments
CryingLoser: A complete other idea for solution would be a counter for the timeout-defeats of a player in a year. The first timeout should limit his open slots to 1000, the second to 500, etc. until this system self-regulates the poor forecast of a "specialist" and reduces his open slots to exactly the quantity he can handle.

It sounds like you are assuming anyone who times out is a 'specialist'. What about someone who has an emergancy and cannot get online? Should they be penalized list above?

Last week I had to let over 60 games time out because I could not come online. It was unexpected and unanticipated. I do not cry or complain since things happen, but I do not think I should be punished by the system either.

24. juni 2006, 18:11:40
juls31 
Emne: Re: Automatic for removing of tournaments
Eriisa
thats ok because you had a reason to time out, i was playing someone the other day who used 4 automatic and when i looked he had around 234 games on the go and he was on line the same time as me he would have seen this soit would have been nice if he could have made his move with me

24. juni 2006, 20:40:23
grenv 
Emne: Re: Automatic for removing of tournaments
juls31: Which i think is solved by not allowing people to move on vacation days, which is implemented on some sites.

24. juni 2006, 20:52:36
mctrivia 
Emne: Re: Automatic for removing of tournaments
grenv: That would make things worse. Besides I some times take a vacation day just because a project has come up and I am really busy. But if I hit a wall I can come online and play a game or 2 to get my mind off the problem then get back to work from a fresh outlook.

25. juni 2006, 00:49:54
toedder 
Emne: Re: Automatic for removing of tournaments
juls31: If you guys have a problem with the vacation system, why don't you just play games without vacation? It's fine if you want to be removed from a tournament because of slow players - but you can't punish others for taking the time they need and that they have. And nobody here has 365 vacation days ;)

25. juni 2006, 01:37:29
CryingLoser 
Emne: Re: Automatic for removing of tournaments
Modifisert av CryingLoser (25. juni 2006, 01:43:49)
Eriisa: Last week I had to let over 60 games time out because I could not come online. It was unexpected and unanticipated. I do not cry or complain since things happen, but I do not think I should be punished by the system either

Hmm, usually we have about 3 - 7 days for a move,
and over this for such cases like a technical defect we have the auto-vacation.
Can it be that you trusted technical resources (which by experience sometimes fail) so that you renounced to use the auto-vac? Or did you use the 30-days-vacation and nevertheless you exhausted the time in 60 games?

In both cases this argument against the "specialist-regulation" is too weak.

grenv:
Which i think is solved by not allowing people to move on vacation days

Great idea, fully agree with it.

mctrivia:
I am really busy. But if I hit a wall I can come online and play a game or 2 to get my mind off the problem then get back to work

If someone is "really busy" and has to take the vacation day, then for him it doesn't matter that he is not allowed to make other moves in this day. If someone is not so busy and assuming he didn't start more slots than he can handle, then he should make his moves. Your argument is weak: using it someone can say he is "busy" in games where he expects a defeat and "not busy" in games where he sees a victory...

25. juni 2006, 05:53:54
mctrivia 
Emne: Re: Automatic for removing of tournaments
CryingLoser: Your argument is weak: using it someone can say he is "busy" in games where he expects a defeat and "not busy" in games where he sees a victory...

Your argumenty makes no sense. Mathematically you are beter off to play the game you will be defeated in faster and slow down the games you will win in. As for me being busy. It is not that uncommon for me to work 16+ hours straight when I am busy I will offten come online and play a game or 2 for a short break. It would not be fair to say that I could not play because I am busy. Just because I can't play all 10 games doesn't mean I can't play 1 or 2. I am on here for fun and I play my games as quickly as I can and usually have a few days spare before I will time out. The point is you can't say people who are on vacation are not allowed to play.

There is a very simple solution to your problem. Do not play games with long time limits or vacations. Stop trying to restric people when you can easily control who you play and the limits on the game.

25. juni 2006, 07:06:14
grenv 
Emne: Re: Automatic for removing of tournaments
mctrivia: What makes no sense is someone timing out, yet a vacation day is automatically added, yet they are actively playing some other game. That's not how it was intended!

25. juni 2006, 10:57:48
CryingLoser 
Emne: Re: Automatic for removing of tournaments
mctrivia: There is a very simple solution to your problem. Do not play games with long time limits or vacations. Stop trying to restric people

You are right. In the case of the feature #3, which restricts other players, i am not interested any more in his introduction.

But for features #1 and #2, which include a personal decision with whom we play or not,
we should continue to suggest their introduction
(to have an other player in the Blocked-user-list can also have other reasons than his slow play)

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