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Stardust: Might be a thought. BTW any other fellowship dedicated to checkers is free to post an advertisement on this board in the interest of fairness.
Modifisert av Manuel M (5. desember 2007, 16:33:05)
"Discuss about checkers game or find new opponents. No insulting, baiting or flaming other players. Off topic posts are subject to deletion and if it persists the poster faces sanctions. This board is for checkers."
Making publicity about a checkers club is in any of the items above? I wonder...hmmmmm...
Manuel M: Character assassination can get you banned. It is better to modify an inflammatory post first to give the person time to think it over. I don't know you and have said nothing about your character. Let's keep it that way.
pattypoo: Sorry to write again about that (and I wrote first to David, as the captain of the team and as moderator of this DB), but I really think this is a conversation Off topic, as it is about a private question - private, for the fellowship, I mean... Anyway, if I'm wrong, we can discuss it here. Don't you understand this as "character assassination", I've nothing against David or pattypoo...
Gabriel Almeida: I'm fuzzy about your question. pattypoo said she didn't want to play on the checker team. This is where we communicate for the team. It seems relivant to me.
To all members of this board, if you want to play on the team (or not) feel free to post it here. I do not want all the members to message me directly.
Gabriel Almeida: Each post on this board is very carefuly screened as to content and appropriateness by the board moderators and the Global Moderators. The activities of checker fellowships is well within the acceptable guidelines and the area where zero lattitude is given is when posters disparage other people. If after reviewing all this you are still offended by something you percieve as "off topic" then the proper forum to discuss it is with the moderators in private. David does a superb job as co-moderator and it will be a rare day indeed when I over rule his decisions. Nuff said?
Purple: Ok, perfectly understood! My question was because I belonged to a checkers team (in Tuga's fellowship), and we always used our own DB (in the fellowship) to that kind of questions. But I can understand your point, and maybe it is a good change, annouce that kind of "teams problems" in here. It can makes this DB more useful. It's clear enougth for me, now!
Manuel M: And for those who doesn't, just let me tell you that in portuguese or spanish, "checker" and "lady" are translated for the same word, so... imagine that instead of "checkers", the game's name was "Ladys", and you'll understand the joke! ;)
With nine close related checkers variants, it may be hard to remember which rules apply to which game. Therefore, I made a cheat sheet, condensing all the rules.
+-------------+ | Captures | +--------+-------+-------+-------------+--------------------------------------+ | Name | Size | Prom. | bw lc lr pp | | +--------+-------+-------+-------------+--------------------------------------+ | US | 8x8 | King | N N Pe N | | +--------+-------+-------+-------------+--------------------------------------+ | Czech | 8x8 | Queen | N N Pe Y | | +--------+-------+-------+-------------+--------------------------------------+ | Inter. | 10x10 | Queen | Y Y Cb N | | +--------+-------+-------+-------------+--------------------------------------+ | Canada | 12x12 | Queen | Y Y Cb N | | +--------+-------+-------+-------------+--------------------------------------+ | Brazil | 8x8 | Queen | Y Y Cb N | | +--------+-------+-------+-------------+--------------------------------------+ | Russia | 8x8 | Queen | Y N Pc N | | +--------+-------+-------+-------------+--------------------------------------+ | Thai | 8x8 | Queen | N N Pe N | Queen lands directly after stone. | +--------+-------+-------+-------------+--------------------------------------+ | Port. | 8x8 | Queen | N Y Pe N | Capture most queens. | +--------+-------+-------+-------------+--------------------------------------+ | Italy | 8x8 | King | N Y Pe Y | 1) Longest capture preference. | | | | | | 2) Capture with King preference. | | | | | | 3) Capture most Kings preference. | | | | | | 4) Capture first King preference. | +--------+-------+-------+-------------+--------------------------------------+
+------------------------------------------------------+ | Captures | +------------------------------------------------------+ | bw: Stones capture backwards. | | lc: Longest capture mandatory. | | lr: Capturing stone reaches last row: | | Pe: Promotes, and turn ends. | | Cb: Continue capturing backwards, if possible. | | Pc: Promotes, continue capturing if possible. | | pp: Capturing with a promoted piece has preference. | +------------------------------------------------------+
david upshaw: why not discuss the changing of moderators? Maybe then this forum would live again...who knows? Check the messages posted here after September/2007 and we must ask if this forum has a reason to live...Why dont you ask to people which are really interested in checkers to become moderators?
as you all know and have been looking forward to with such anticipation: The Dutch Championship has just kicked off! And what's more: the games can be followed live: http://www.livedraughts.com/NK2008/LiveGames1x4_1x3.htm a service provided by http://www.livedraughts.com/ (a good one to bookmark:) for reviews of past rounds see: http://www.dcdordrecht.nl./ and click on "Animatie en analyse" then "Kampioenschap van Nederland" and on 1-13 to go to the desired round... (of course comments there will be in Dutch, but the notation is universal :)
Tiny note: the electronic boards do sometimes have difficulty "seeing" the pieces on the board, a bug which may confuse but is usually resolved one move later. Enjoy!
Modifisert av david upshaw (11. april 2008, 15:28:20)
Manuel M: I would support a change in moderators, but I'm not in a position to ask anyone to step down. I consider Purple a friend and I don't want to step on anyone's toes. I believe he deserves respect. He's spent alot of time setting up fellowships both here and other sites. Lets face it, keeping fresh conversations on 'checkers' is a difficult task.
Manuel are you saying that you'd like to be a moderator? Anyone else you'd suggest? As long as the majority of members in the fellowship are okay with it, I've give up my post. It wouldn't hurt my feelings... much. lol
They are selected on their interest and knowledge of checkers and not subject to "votes" and those who choose to make ethnic or other slurs will find their posts deleted and should they repeat this kind of thing they will be banned. See the guidelines. Stardust is right..talk about checkers and you will be welcome. Start trouble and you will be history. This is not debatable so don't even try. Thanks.
vic: Thanks Vic. It's very interesting to know we can see the Dutch Championship to the life. For me it's an important innovation and can be helpful to players in some countries like Portugal. In my country there're classic (portuguese) checkers and international checkers, but there is only one international checkers tournament for year. Many few players play this game and with innovations like that, maybe this situation can change. I'm going put those links in some portuguese checkers blogs.
david upshaw: No, David, I would never consider myself as a candidate to moderator. I have a democratic ideal about "discussion foruns" that is not suitable with arrogance, as I see now...I surely would like to see people interested in checkers as moderaters of this forum, because that would take this forward. I can see many candidates for that, such as Vic, Greg Murray, Undertaker and so many others that even have already published interesting articles about checkers. This is not a persecution of the moderators of this forum but only what everybody can see...Aboute the menaces of being banned from here, I would rather prefer that than beeing part of a forum where any diferent oppinion is considered a "trouble"...As someone once said, I rather prefer dying on my feet than living on my knees...Be good!
Purple: I understand Ustica and David have been selected because their interest and knowledge of checkers and maybe because you work like a good team. For me are good reasons, but when some players said moderators are bad, so you must listen them and try better. I think David gave a shot in the foot. If this board are good and with many posts so why he said: "Anyone think of anything good to discuss?" Maybe because nobody put posts here. Some time ago I don't feel at home here, so I and others players decideed start to put our posts in other board, Checkers Variants or Dama I'm not sure, and you became moderator of that board and start delete posts and banish people. In my opinion are wrong actions and help to reduce the number of posts here. I think you must reflect about my words to do a better board in the future. Thanks!
I really don't understand why was my post delcted! Was there any offense? If some mod felt offended with some words, please PM me with it, as I'm interested in understanding it. This is absolutelly unacceptable. I think someone here simply deletes anytime he sees my name...
!Undertaker!: That's interesting. From the "classics", its only missing Reversi and backgammon. Although I'm not sure if backgammon is trully a "MIND" game... lolol
Gabriel Almeida: You forgot Ludo eheheh. Who knows more checkers variant like classic checkers, russian checkers and anglo-american checkers. They are played in many countries and for many people. ;)
Undertaker.: Encosta-a a um dos cantos e obriga-a a repetir os movimentos três vezes. Basta isso para comunicares ao Fencer que ele deverá dar a partida por empatada. Já me aconteceu o mesmo uma vez e ele resolveu o problema assim. No itsyourturn.com, se se repetirem 3 vezes os mesmos movimentos, a partida é automaticamente empatada. aqui, ainda é preciso pedir...Boa sorte ;)
Tuesday: Not quite...If it was that way, some people would take years to finish their games, just to annoy the opponent. If the moves are always the same, the game should be declared draw (by Fencer, I guess)
I agree that players should be willing to accept a draw or conceed when they're defeated. Once the outcome is obvious, its disrespectful to drag it out. Unfortunately some players aren't skilled enough to know when its obvious.
I also think there are some exceptions. There are times when I knew I was beaten and played longer than necessary. I just wanted to see how a better player would handle the end game. It was a learning experience.
david upshaw: Yap, I agree with you. In this case, I think Brady was skilled enough to know that the game was drawn and this was the main reason for my boredom.
Undertaker.: Yes. For your BKR, we can easilly understand it is a draw. Sometimes a player can loose the game for is "hunger", so... I think Manuel M is right, you just have to repeat your moves, and then ask Fencer to draw the game. And, if Brady really wants to win it... well, just wait to see what he'll do to win it. Sometimes this is a good way to YOU to win it. Someone that tries to win always take more risks... defending it's easier. Take this advantage. Just remember: HE wants to win it, not you. So... it's "stupid" if it is you to take the risks, just to force it to accept the draw.
Gabriel Almeida: Tú estás pior..."O" Brady é uma gaja francesa...e teimosa como uma mula! Isto a propósito de teres usado o ..."he" wants to win... Assim com'assim, é mais "he man..." :)))
For those who can't read in portuguese, I can explain you that we (me and Undertaker) were calling brady as "HE", but Manuel explained us that we should say "SHE".