cd power: Exactly

cd power:
This site has a 1000/2000 move/most moves in a day achievement. This means that lost games are more likely played on when the game if no longer entertaining.
The Laws of chess are clear the lone King never wins.
ICCF doesn't envisage a player playing on with bare king and there is no incentive to play on with a bare king. My suspicion is a bare king on ICCF wouldn't get the point and if it did the rule would change. They have rules envisaging the possiblity of adjudication and backdating time extension.

Implementing the Laws of Chess can't be that hard there numerous open source programs that correctly detect 3 fold repetition, 50 move rule and insufficent mating material.

As to why so many game.
When I was a pawn and later a knight I tried to enter prize tournament only to be denied due to no unrated players being allowed.
When my knight was about to go back to a pawn I entered as many tournaments as I would be severely restricted as a pawn.

It is perverse that the pawn can in theory win higher membership, only to be denied entry to free prize event due to lack of rating and the ratings take ages to get because of restriction on games.

This issue isn't about me, it is about whether a player who can't obtain the victory conditions of a game on the board should gain victory on the clock.

If someone really doesn't understand they are totally lost or really wants a game to accumulate moves fine, but anyone who thinks they should get a so called "timeout win" when it is impossible to achieve the game victory condition is IMO a bit pathetic..

Would this site be better if chess rules were correctly implemented?
Would it be better if you didn't have to make to click pass or enter the only legal move available?
My understanding is Fencer actually wants to improve this site and can only do that with constructive feedback.

thisbeme: hooray for the constructive feedback! every site needs fresh ideas from its players

i dont know if you already did so, but could you post the mancala variant on the feature request board or on the mancala board ?

the reason why there is not real 'autopass' is that in that way there can be no talk between the (passed) game moves .. personally i would love real autopass or maybe an option to turn it off and on .. but fencer likes this site to be more social than the usual game sites on which you just make your moves

thisbeme: I think players play lost games not because achievement, but because lack of chess etiquette. They are mostly beginners and they play until end and they hadnt occasion to learn it as we both had. I agree with you, it is anoying, but we can do nothing with it. Even more annoying it is in positions which are mathematically lost like often happens in backgammon or dice poker.

Even on ICCF server can play beginners and rules has count with every possibility. You can try to ask someone from ICCF:)

I disagree with you also in case of 3fold repetition (and also 50 moves rule). Such programs shouldnt be allowed. It is responsibility of every player to watch for for such situation and when this occure to inform referee. Referee on BK is Fencer and he can claim game as draw if you tell him (and you are right:). And he did it quite quick in my game. In OTB game you havnt such program, have you?

lukulus:

3 fold repetition can/has to be claimed of this site?

Me personally I don't think there is much benefit to 50 move/3 fold repetition claims not being handled automatically on the server. If you reach a position where you have a valid claim that can be made against you the odds of you winning are very tiny anyway.
If there is a claim draw button, I haven't noticed it.

thisbeme:
Dude.
Lukulus gave you a clear explanation how it works here.
Please accept it and stop spamming. Nobody is going to change it.
Thank you.

thisbeme: You have PM to fencer. Its same as in OTB game when you call referee and in correspondence chess when you write to tournament director.

Of course, there is benefit. If you are trying to win you have more time to do it if defender wont claim the rule. In OTB game I claimed 3fold repetition in very bad position, so my opponents' chances to win were very good - but you are right, my chances to win were tiny:)

thisbeme:
I don't agree that trying to win on time is pathetic, it is just part of the game. The same thing happens in over the board chess, if you have a half hour game or a longer game with the clocks going back to be completed in 15 mins it sometimes comes down to player with a technically won position being short of time and losing. Time management is part of the game on brainking and competitive over the board chess.

Justaminute:

It is not part of the game to win on time with a lone king,

It is irrational to award a timeloss if that if playing the worst possible moves would still win or draw.
You can claim a draw in a quickplay finish, if the player isn't trying to win by normal means.