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4. Novembro 2011, 00:34:27
Marshmud 
Assunto: Re: can't win
thisbeme: I have many friends complain of your play in the past. I've never said anything about all the time outs, but that is what happens when you have thousands of games to play. Your a smart player. When you timeout constantly it lowers your BKR. It upsets people who play their games on a daily bases. All my tournys from last year that I'm still in are because of your slow play. I can see why people get upset, but its your right to play thousands of games and time out on as many as you wish as long as we have no limit on games played. I suggest those who are upset is to just not join tournaments you are part of, and explain to the BB of said fellowship and explain why you won't play.

4. Novembro 2011, 00:54:31
rod03801 
Assunto: Re: can't win
Marshmud: But there is still no need for anyone to be rude to him about it. He has done nothing wrong, and has broken no rules.

I've been the "slow one" a few times over the years, so I can relate a bit. When I have a lot of games, I play in order of time out. So of course the games with the longer time limits can last SO long, because yes, there will be times I approach the time limits pretty closely.
This is why I tend to avoid games with longer than 3 day limits. And when someone sends me an invitation to a private, friendly game with a long limit, I write back and warn them that which such a long limit, unfortunately, I may use much of it.

Anyone who asks POLITELY however, as others have said, to move more quickly for them? I'm MORE than happy to do it, as I'm not going "slow" on purpose.

This is one reason I have requested the ability to "flag" certain games, (for whatever reason), and have an additional command of "Move and go to Next Flagged Game".
(Which I STILL think is a great request, FENCER!! )

People need to realize they may get better results by being nice. I know if I got a rude message about my speed of moving, I'd probably tend to leave games with that person longer than normal!.

4. Novembro 2011, 01:36:37
Marshmud 
Assunto: Re: can't win
rod03801: And with all due respect Rod, being the "slowone" a few times over the years is a bit different to this scenario I speak of.

4. Novembro 2011, 00:58:08
Aganju 
Assunto: Re: can't win
Marshmud, thisbeme: I can only agree. Starting an inordinate amount of games that you cannot handle shows bad judgement. That can happen to anybody, but continuing to do so shows carelessness and disrespect for others.
Although it does not violate any official rules on this site, it violates basic courtesy, and I would not want to play against such people anymore.

4. Novembro 2011, 01:02:32
happyjuggler0 
Assunto: Re: can't win
Aganju: Thank you for that reply; a second the motion. I wanted to say the same thing, but couldn't figure out a way to do so that wouldn't make me look rude. As a result I was silent until now....

4. Novembro 2011, 05:57:19
thisbeme 
Assunto: Re: can't win
Marshmud:

I timed out hundreds of games because I couldn't login into the site gateway 502 error and this was the only site I could not access so I thought that the site was down so the server would disable the timeout (losing about 15000 rating points). After that I wasn't motivated to play because of this for a bit which used up vacation. Also timing out by minutes because of the you are not the starter click pass BUG doesn't help. The lack motivation and boredom at continuously clicking pass lead to further timeouts.

Anyway that is all ancient history other than that if someone I care about has a problem or my internet fails I'll possibly lose a few timeout due to no vacation, but things are a lot different now.

Plenty of players have double my number of games or more.

Mancala any legal series moves for a player on 25 pts or more wins yet the game is forced to be played out and the loser can get a timeout victory due to the BUG in the game!
Chess a player can play on with bare king and get awarded a win due to to a BUG in variants where a lone king can't win. Playing on for months until checkmate is very disrespectful yet is common. If most move in a day is an "achievement" having a game you can't screw up the result is going to perversely reward playing on till mate.

These above issues/bugs will slow my play down needlessly.

It is news to me that anyone enters an event that has a particular time limit and is surprised that time is used. There are many opportunity to play 1 day a move or even less and no vacation games.
Anyone who plays in the real world knows it is normal to use the time you have as you see fit!

In any case I wasn't given a chance to respond to the message before they continue having a go because I don't immediately look at the latest message (usually a request for players for tournament, teams and ponds)..
Spamming/harassing someone who doesn't reply within a day is clearly uncalled for.
They weren't even a member when I timed out lots of games!

5. Novembro 2011, 01:20:34
Gabriel Almeida 
Assunto: Re: can't win

thisbeme: I would time out a lot if I had more than 1700 games running! ;)


I agree interly with Marshmud, and disagree with Rod. Slow playing doesn't violate any formal rule, but violate basic courtesy, has Aganju said. But ok... only my opinion. Anyway, I still insist... always great when people can say it in proper words. Being polite, of course! :)


5. Novembro 2011, 05:30:57
rod03801 
Assunto: Re: can't win
Gabriel Almeida: Interesting. Doesn't sound like you disagree. I said "didn't break any rule" and "doesn't deserve rudeness" I said nothing about courtesy.

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