harley: i have clicked it. i see nothing but a bigger text field and the link change to read "Switch to plain text editor".

Dolittle: i see nothing but a bigger text field and the link change to read "Switch to plain text editor".

i'm using a Mac though, and nobody thinks about us Mac users.

plaintiger: Requires: IE5.5+/Mozilla 1.3+/Firefox 0.6.1+/Netscape 7.1+/Mac Safari/Opera 9+, or any other browser that fully supports designMode() for rich-text features. All other browsers will display a standard textarea box instead.

That is taken from the site the rich text editor is based from - so I would guess those requirements would be similar after Fencer's modifications on it.

BIG BAD WOLF: i'm running the latest version of Safari, and it's on that list.

plaintiger: Strange. Do you have any of the java stuff on the site turned off? Not sure if that would make a difference or not.

The rich text editor will show easy ways to change the text size, color, bold, etc...

BIG BAD WOLF: the only thing i had disabled in JavaScript was "show context menus" and i've enabled that just in case and it's made no difference.

but this is not the first time i've run into a JavaScript thingy that doesn't work right in Safari. i've had all Safari's JavaScript options turned on for years and sometimes a page will still throw up an error saying i need to turn on JavaScript in my browser to see the content. i don't know what Apple's doing wrong there, but it seems to be something...

i figured that's what i should see. that's what i expect to see in a rich text editor (i'm very computer-savvy). but i don't see it.

i have a mac laptop and safari was the best browser, but it isn't anymore, i downloaded the free versions of mozilla firefox and netscape for the macs, they're fast and work like the safari used to. i find if i clear the history and cache pretty often and then quit the browser and then go back in it works great, another thing i do once in awhile while i'm clearing history and cache is go to where it say's enalble java, i unclick it and reclick it, everything is under preferences. i do all that pretty often, and it makes a big difference.

ellieoop: i hate all PC-first browsers. they work like PC software - unnecessarily complicated and unintuitive - and you can be running the Mac version on a Mac and when you invoke the help system, you're taken to help for the PC versions which are different from the Mac versions (so the help is of no help) and indeed there *is* no help for the Mac versions...and i take that as a personal affront. i won't use software written by people who make it clear that because i use a Mac, they have no interest in acknowledging my existence, let alone helping me.

don't *You* find that insulting? do *You* want to support software authors who make it clear that the difficulties You, as a Mac user, have with their software are of no interest to them? do You want to encourage that? don't You think encouraging that attitude would in time make the world a worse place for all Mac users? it's only because PC users tolerate crappy software that PC software sucks so bad. if it's allowed to, complacency will do that to the Mac as well.

BIG BAD WOLF: Not really, our RTE is based on an older version of that editor.

plaintiger: Unfortunatelly I don't have a Mac, I cannot test it on it.

plaintiger: Maybe it's more user friendly for windows? Don't you have a mac?
After you change to text editor, it should give you a toolbar with different fonts and things just above the box. You don't have that?

Marfitalu: And now?