Even after his resignation from the Klan, Byrd continued to hold it in high esteem, writing to the Klan's Imperial Wizard in 1946: "The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia."

And Byrd was old enough to have participated in filibustering the Civil Rights Act of 1964, as well as to have voted against it after cloture along with 18 other Democrats -- in the name of the Constitution, of course.

"I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side… Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds" ---Senator Robert Byrd --- (D-WV)

Tuesday: My goodness, you sure are very forgiving,He was raised by his Aunt and Uncle.. and he was college educated. He was a racist, bigot and probably bordered on what today is criminal activity. spreading hate and racial bias...condemn him for ever no... but elect him time and time again? Today he would be prosecuted. he came to his senses when he realized his views were not popular and wouldn't get him elected

Tuesday: being a member an recruiter in the Klan isn't a matter of being opinionated. They did a lot of damage and spread a lot of hate

Some sins aren't so easily "sorried": away. The Klan did a lot of damage especially when Byrd was a member AND recruiter.I'm not black and I never did a survey but to many blacks , slavery and the Klan are on par with Nazis, I would say its safe to say. How could Byrd undo or make up for his part? Same for Ted Kennedy, (for his own little episode at Chappaquiddick) sorry,but great men they are not

Who was it that was standing in the school house door preventing black from attending a public school. Yeah, a democratic leader.

History reveals that it was Democratic Attorney General, Robert Kennedy that approved the secret wire taps on Dr, Martin Luther King Jr., and it was Democratic President Lyndon Johnson that referred to Dr. King as " that N preacher." Senator Byrd referred to Dr. King as a "trouble maker" who causes trouble and then runs like a "coward," when trouble breaks out.

And these days the left plays the race card all day long. Against Obamacare? You're a racist. Don't like Obama as president? That's because you're a racist. Jesse Jackson - a racist as is Al Sharpton.

Are you for affirmative action? You're for race discrimination. All the entitlement policies can be traced largely to the Democrats. They are bribing the people with their own money.

A lot has changed since 1830 but then again, a lot has stayed the same.

Tuesday: Fox justs wants to stir and like other ultra right wing organisations.. spread fear.

Tuesday: I thought these days it was more the Hispanics who were being used. God forbid Americans paying full price for what they consume!!

Artful Dodger: Then your whole argument falls down.

Hallelujah. the end...

(V): I never said they didn't change. I said they can trace their origins to the 1830s and that they are still the same party. The Democrats reinvented themselves when the lost the slavery fight and the segregation fights. Now they just exploit blacks and minorities in other ways.

The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville

The Democratic party seized upon this idea long ago.

Artful Dodger: So... if parties still don't change and people don't change.

Are the protestants in the USA still wanting (as per their founders) wanting to kill all Jews?

Tuesday: I know.

(V): The democratic platforms are still racist today.

Artful Dodger: Many people in the USA were for segregation, many people still think black folk are less then them in the USA. Using race to hide their insecurities blaming this and that for their woes.. it does not work. Those that were active in white supremacy are still alive due to it being such a recent event. You have Conservative Christians saying being Gay is evil and against God.. Men still saying women belong in the Kitchen.

Are we all to live in the past and never move forward??

imho that is pure madness.

Tuesday: Beck is paid to be an idiot by an idiot aka Murdoch!

He's just a propaganda machine hired to keep the rich rich at the same time getting rich from being an idiot... n' because people think he's telling the truth (as Fox never would let anyone lie on their channel.. people go along with his idiocy.

(V): I said they can trace their roots back to the 1830s, lol you posted this fact yourself. And this is the SAME party that favored slavery. And it wasn't too long ago that the democrats were for segregation.

Artful Dodger: Blimey.. nothing has changed since the 1790's... not even when the liberal Republicans left the Republican party in the 1960's??

History is history.. but to twist it to making out the Democratic party is the same as over 200 years ago is a little weak. It's like saying the stars never move.

(V): They are the same party and can trace their roots back to 1830. They even admit this on their own website (minus the racial hate stuff). So let's see, go with Jules' spin or the DNC's own website.

Oh yeah, the DNC.

Artful Dodger: They are not the same party, neither is the Republicans. To say so looking at various histories from several different sites is madness. You keep harping about the Republicans going back to Conservative values... yet there is no such thing as 'Conservative' values as they vary from country to country from region to region.

It's like saying socialism is just communism by another name. That there are several types of socialism. Some work.. some don't.. some have had their name misused and made into evil to justify spending billions upon billions on weapons that will never be used.

(V): Exactly Jules. I posted some of that same information. The Democratic party arose in the 1830 and is the SAME party today. They are the SAME party that joined the Klu Klux Klan, voted to keep slavery legal, and these days they use race to gain political points. The democrats USE blacks to gain power. They KEEP blacks believing they are discriminated against so that they (the democrats) can come to their constant rescue. They are a corrupt and vile party.

The Democratic Party traces its origins to the Democratic-Republican Party, founded by Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and other influential opponents of the Federalists in 1792. However, the modern Democratic Party truly arose in the 1830s, with the election of Andrew Jackson. Since the division of the Republican Party in the election of 1912, it has gradually positioned itself to the left of the Republican Party on economic and social issues. Until the period following the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Democratic Party was primarily a coalition of two parties divided by region. Southern Democrats were typically given high conservative ratings by the American Conservative Union while northern Democrats were typically given very low ratings. Southern Democrats were a core bloc of the bipartisan conservative coalition which lasted through the Reagan-era. The economically activist philosophy of Franklin D. Roosevelt, which has strongly influenced American liberalism, has shaped much of the party's economic agenda since 1932, and served to tie the two regional factions of the party together until the late 1960s. In fact, Roosevelt's New Deal coalition usually controlled the national government until the 1970s.

In 2004, it was the largest political party, with 72 million voters (42.6% of 169 million registered) claiming affiliation. By comparison, the Republican Party has 55 million members.[5] During the first quarter of 2009, 52% of Americans identified more closely with the Democratic party while 39% leaned Republican.[7]

(V): "Clueless In England"

Jump This: I'm probably the only one here that like Glen Beck

Will the right wing right now blame that women didn't have the vote on the democrats??

.. what about the point that da bad un's have guns because they know the occupier might have guns or the cops.. so as such things get potentially lethal more quickly.

Killed over $100..

I'd like to know what those on this forum think of Glenn Beck---just curious. Comments?

Black GOP Republican need not apply for membership in Black Caucus
Ethel C. Fenig
Years ago Groucho Marx proclaimed he wouldn't want to be a member of any organization that would actually admit him. Perhaps Tim Scott, a black Republican from South Carolina who has a good chance of becoming a representative to Congress by winning the general election in November, feels the same way about joining the Black Congressional Caucus. As John Steele Gordon of Commentary Magazine's Contentions blog points out
But assuming Scott is elected, he needn't apply for membership in the Congressional Black Caucus, of course. It's a measure of how little the left in American politics has changed in the last 50 years that the Black Caucus - devoted to race-based politics and victimology - admits only liberal Democratic members.
Scott is black; Scott is not a liberal.
Could he sue for discrimination?

June 28, 2010

Former KKK Clansman Senator Robert Byrd Dies, Age 92

There is no reference to the number of Democratic Party platforms supporting slavery. There were six from 1840 through 1860.
There is no reference to the number of Democratic presidents who owned slaves. There were seven from 1800 through 1861

There is no reference to the number of Democratic Party platforms that either supported segregation outright or were silent on the subject. There were 20, from 1868 through 1948.

There is no reference to "Jim Crow" as in "Jim Crow laws," nor is there reference to the role Democrats played in creating them. These were the post-Civil War laws passed enthusiastically by Democrats in that pesky 52-year part of the DNC's missing years. These laws segregated public schools, public transportation, restaurants, rest rooms and public places in general (everything from water coolers to beaches). The reason Rosa Parks became famous is that she sat in the "whites only" front section of a bus, the "whites only" designation the direct result of Democrats.

There is no reference to the formation of the Ku Klux Klan, which, according to Columbia University historian Eric Foner, became "a military force serving the interests of the Democratic Party." Nor is there reference to University of North Carolina historian Allen Trelease's description of the Klan as the "terrorist arm of the Democratic Party."

There is no reference to the fact Democrats opposed the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments to the Constitution. The 13th banned slavery. The 14th effectively overturned the infamous 1857 Dred Scott decision (made by Democratic pro-slavery Supreme Court justices) by guaranteeing due process and equal protection to former slaves. The 15th gave black Americans the right to vote.

There is no reference to the fact that Democrats opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1866. It was passed by the Republican Congress over the veto of President Andrew Johnson, who had been a Democrat before joining Lincoln's ticket in 1864. The law was designed to provide blacks with the right to own private property, sign contracts, sue and serve as witnesses in a legal proceeding.

There is no reference to the Democrats' opposition to the Civil Rights Act of 1875. It was passed by a Republican Congress and signed into law by President Ulysses Grant. The law prohibited racial discrimination in public places and public accommodations.

There is no reference to the Democrats' 1904 platform, which devotes a section to "Sectional and Racial Agitation," claiming the GOP's protests against segregation and the denial of voting rights to blacks sought to "revive the dead and hateful race and sectional animosities in any part of our common country," which in turn "means confusion, distraction of business, and the reopening of wounds now happily healed."

There is no reference to four Democratic platforms, 1908-20, that are silent on blacks, segregation, lynching and voting rights as racial problems in the country mount. By contrast the GOP platforms of those years specifically address "Rights of the Negro" (1908), oppose lynching (in 1912, 1920, 1924, 1928) and, as the New Deal kicks in, speak out about the dangers of making blacks "wards of the state."

There is no reference to the Democratic Convention of 1924, known to history as the "Klanbake." The 103-ballot convention was held in Madison Square Garden. Hundreds of delegates were members of the Ku Klux Klan, the Klan so powerful that a plank condemning Klan violence was defeated outright. To celebrate, the Klan staged a rally with 10,000 hooded Klansmen in a field in New Jersey directly across the Hudson from the site of the convention. Attended by hundreds of cheering convention delegates, the rally featured burning crosses and calls for violence against African-Americans and Catholics.

There is no reference to the fact that it was Democrats who segregated the federal government, at the direction of President Woodrow Wilson upon taking office in 1913. There \is a reference to the fact that President Harry Truman integrated the military after World War II.

There is reference to the fact that Democrats created the Federal Reserve Board, passed labor and child welfare laws, and created Social Security with Wilson's New Freedom and FDR's New Deal.

There is no mention that these programs were created as the result of an agreement to ignore segregation and the lynching of blacks. Neither is there a reference to the thousands of local officials, state legislators, state governors, U.S. congressmen and U.S. senators who were elected as supporters of slavery and then segregation between 1800 and 1965. Nor is there reference to the deal with the devil that left segregation and lynching as a way of life in return for election support for three post-Civil War Democratic presidents, Grover Cleveland, Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt.

There is no reference that three-fourths of the opposition to the 1964 Civil Rights Bill in the U.S. House came from Democrats, or that 80% of the "nay" vote in the Senate came from Democrats. Certainly there is no reference to the fact that the opposition included future Democratic Senate leader Robert Byrd of West Virginia (a former Klan member) and Tennessee Senator Albert Gore Sr., father of Vice President Al Gore.

Last but certainly not least, there is no reference to the fact that Birmingham, Ala., Public Safety Commissioner Bull Connor, who infamously unleashed dogs and fire hoses on civil rights protestors, was in fact--yes indeed--a member of both the Democratic National Committee and the Ku Klux Klan.

Bernice: There have been many independent studies and they all show that if you take away the rights of the people to own a gun, most won't. Many will. But ALL of the criminal elements will find a gun. They will have them, law abiding citizens won't. Where there are gun control laws, there is an increase in crime.

In some towns in the US you can wear your gun (like in the old West). Safest places to live on the planet. Everybody has a gun and if a dude wants to rob a bank, he may not get to the door without a few holes in his sorry arse. ;)

Artful Dodger: what you dont say is how many have illegal weapons. People who live in the country and need guns to get rid of feral animals and such have unregistered guns. The crime rate hasnt dropped etc as you pointed out, but the trade in illegal weapons has increased. We still dont have drive by's as you do in the USA (thank god) but are starting to get idiots in schools with weapons. typical male testosterone kicking in....these BOYS, and they are only children think they are invincible.
it is so easy to get a license for a gun, but one gun isnt enough for some households, so they revert to illegal purchases.