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29. Junho 2010, 17:33:39
Mort 
The Democratic Party traces its origins to the Democratic-Republican Party, founded by Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and other influential opponents of the Federalists in 1792. However, the modern Democratic Party truly arose in the 1830s, with the election of Andrew Jackson. Since the division of the Republican Party in the election of 1912, it has gradually positioned itself to the left of the Republican Party on economic and social issues. Until the period following the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Democratic Party was primarily a coalition of two parties divided by region. Southern Democrats were typically given high conservative ratings by the American Conservative Union while northern Democrats were typically given very low ratings. Southern Democrats were a core bloc of the bipartisan conservative coalition which lasted through the Reagan-era. The economically activist philosophy of Franklin D. Roosevelt, which has strongly influenced American liberalism, has shaped much of the party's economic agenda since 1932, and served to tie the two regional factions of the party together until the late 1960s. In fact, Roosevelt's New Deal coalition usually controlled the national government until the 1970s.

In 2004, it was the largest political party, with 72 million voters (42.6% of 169 million registered) claiming affiliation. By comparison, the Republican Party has 55 million members.[5] During the first quarter of 2009, 52% of Americans identified more closely with the Democratic party while 39% leaned Republican.[7]

29. Junho 2010, 17:49:54
Papa Zoom 
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(V): Exactly Jules. I posted some of that same information. The Democratic party arose in the 1830 and is the SAME party today. They are the SAME party that joined the Klu Klux Klan, voted to keep slavery legal, and these days they use race to gain political points. The democrats USE blacks to gain power. They KEEP blacks believing they are discriminated against so that they (the democrats) can come to their constant rescue. They are a corrupt and vile party.

29. Junho 2010, 18:20:55
Mort 
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Artful Dodger: They are not the same party, neither is the Republicans. To say so looking at various histories from several different sites is madness. You keep harping about the Republicans going back to Conservative values... yet there is no such thing as 'Conservative' values as they vary from country to country from region to region.

It's like saying socialism is just communism by another name. That there are several types of socialism. Some work.. some don't.. some have had their name misused and made into evil to justify spending billions upon billions on weapons that will never be used.

29. Junho 2010, 19:20:48
Papa Zoom 
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(V): They are the same party and can trace their roots back to 1830. They even admit this on their own website (minus the racial hate stuff). So let's see, go with Jules' spin or the DNC's own website.

Oh yeah, the DNC.

29. Junho 2010, 19:34:42
Mort 
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Artful Dodger: Blimey.. nothing has changed since the 1790's... not even when the liberal Republicans left the Republican party in the 1960's??

History is history.. but to twist it to making out the Democratic party is the same as over 200 years ago is a little weak. It's like saying the stars never move.

29. Junho 2010, 19:45:19
Mort 
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Tuesday: Beck is paid to be an idiot by an idiot aka Murdoch!

He's just a propaganda machine hired to keep the rich rich at the same time getting rich from being an idiot... n' because people think he's telling the truth (as Fox never would let anyone lie on their channel.. people go along with his idiocy.

29. Junho 2010, 19:41:40
Papa Zoom 
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(V): I said they can trace their roots back to the 1830s, lol you posted this fact yourself. And this is the SAME party that favored slavery. And it wasn't too long ago that the democrats were for segregation.

29. Junho 2010, 19:53:15
Mort 
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Artful Dodger: Many people in the USA were for segregation, many people still think black folk are less then them in the USA. Using race to hide their insecurities blaming this and that for their woes.. it does not work. Those that were active in white supremacy are still alive due to it being such a recent event. You have Conservative Christians saying being Gay is evil and against God.. Men still saying women belong in the Kitchen.

Are we all to live in the past and never move forward??

imho that is pure madness.

29. Junho 2010, 20:16:42
Mort 
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Tuesday: I know.

29. Junho 2010, 20:08:22
Papa Zoom 
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(V): The democratic platforms are still racist today.

29. Junho 2010, 20:18:22
Mort 
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Artful Dodger: So... if parties still don't change and people don't change.

Are the protestants in the USA still wanting (as per their founders) wanting to kill all Jews?

29. Junho 2010, 20:20:52
Papa Zoom 
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(V): I never said they didn't change. I said they can trace their origins to the 1830s and that they are still the same party. The Democrats reinvented themselves when the lost the slavery fight and the segregation fights. Now they just exploit blacks and minorities in other ways.

29. Junho 2010, 20:23:07
Mort 
Assunto: Re:I never said they didn't change.
Artful Dodger: Then your whole argument falls down.

Hallelujah. the end...

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