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24. Junho 2010, 00:02:34

Papa Zoom

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That should put that issue to rest. It's clear that Obama refused help, and sat on an effective response. He's an inept, incompetent rookie and clearly over his head.

24. Junho 2010, 01:35:57

Mort

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Modificado por Mort (24. Junho 2010, 01:38:56)

OldFartNamesArt: Not really can you do a break down of the 15 vessels of foreign (to the USA) nationality... something like 25% of the ships there..

And you'll still quoting the Jones act when it does not apply.

Quite honestly.. all I see is misquotes from people loving to jump on Obama because of something he did not do... He didn't decide to break safety laws and advice.

Geez ... they'd get killed on Question time!!

24. Junho 2010, 01:55:07

Papa Zoom

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(V): Get with it Jules. It's clear that in the beginning (and for a long time) Obama did very little to help curb the spill. And it's also a fact that Obama refused help. As for your claim, I can find NOTHING to support your claim. Not that I don't think it's likely at this point. How long as it been now?

I don't know the nature of the ships helping, the countries they are from, no details. So I'll not take your word or that of Media matters either.

Even if it's true, Obama STILL refused help from countries that were willing to help. They had the proper equipment.

Meanwhile, Obama was stonewalling requests from Louisiana's Governor for needed help/equipment/permits etc.

24. Junho 2010, 01:59:46

Mort

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OldFartNamesArt: I checked the details on the Deepwater Horizon Incident Joint Information Center website... No list of nationality is there, but that 15 vessels from NON USA countries are helping.

..AND THAT THE JONES ACT DOES NOT APPLY.

It's clear your sites are scaremongering like those ads during the election suggestion a vote for Obama was a vote for the USA being nuked.

.. I'm doubly concerned that some people in the USA would belief that!!

24. Junho 2010, 02:20:35

Papa Zoom

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Assunto: Re: there may be some confusion re the Jones Act but that doens't explain this;

(V): Hawaii Republican Rep. Charles Djou became the latest member of Congress to publicly criticize President Obama for not allowing foreign ships into the Gulf of Mexico to help with the clean-up effort of the BP oil spill.

Djou called on the administration to temporarily suspend the Jones Act, which bars foreign ships from engaging in transporting goods to and from American ports. According to a clause in the statute, the president can waive the law on an emergency and temporary basis.

24. Junho 2010, 08:44:21

Mort

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Assunto: Re: President Obama for not allowing foreign ships into the Gulf of Mexico

Artful Dodger: ... But there are already ships there.... If some politician wants to play a points game over a little bit of red tape then so be it....

Do the foreign nationality ships working in the area have to leave until some politician gets his 15 minutes??

.. Sounds like that MEP getting paid to dis the NHS for the Murdoch unbiased news services. *cough*