Charles Martel: the USA in my opinion has no business forcing their "model" or ideals on other countries.........true....I ahve always thgouht that way

Charles Martel: the USA in my opinion has no business forcing their "model" or ideals on other countries.........true....I ahve always thgouht that way


here is the problem i have with this kind of thought.... I can agree on one level that we should not force anyone to do anything, but I also do think these countries can have it both ways. What I mean is that here we are paying to feed their people (in Iraq) ...Saddam is stealing the money for the food we are supposed to be buying them,... we are spending countless amounts of time energy and money to monitor them and to sanction them and to monitor the sanction then tohave them broken anyway.... okay fine with me, dont go in and help the Iraqi people have hope for their futures, but dont give them anything at all!! We arent allowed to help them by getting rid of their tyrant leader, well we arent going to spend another dime on them at all!


See, when it comes right down to it, we did not force anything on anybody, they forced it upon themselves, really!!!

Its the same ol liberal garbage.... dont teach them to fish just give them fish. At some point if you are responsible to feed the people because their leader wont do it, then you have the responsibility to help them become more self sufficiant, the best long term way to make them more self sufficient is to give them a stable democratic society.


We are not going into any country we dont like their government and forcing democracy down their throats.... but Iraq was obviously not working, and you libs out there keep whining about how much the war costs, but what would it cost us to feed and monitor Iraq generation after generation? Or even worse, wait 10 years and then have to go in and help out?

I think it was inevitable what was going to happen in Iraq, it was just a matter of when and how..... the stars just lined up right for us to go in when we did, and I am glad for it!

Czuch: why you say how we were feeding the people in Iraq - was that because we made it impossible for the people of Iraq to sell oil and buy feed themselves?

I mean I understand the need of the emargo against Iraq - but to try to use the result of that (no money for food) as a reason to do more.... Sorry, fail.

coan.net: I see a point there.... but what was the option then? Before the oil embargo Saddam was selling oil and using the cash to make weapons to kill his own people with.

Its great to say just stay out of their affairs, let them be, but someday their mess will become our mess, and then its a way bigger mess.... there are no easy solutions, and I dont know what the best ones are or arent, but nobody does. We just do the best we can with what we have and sometimes histroy proves what we did to be the right thing sometimes it shows that maybe something else is better.

But you cannot tell me that for sure what we did in Iraq was wrong and for sure not doing something would have been better in the long term.