Artful Dodger:ummm....they dont work

Bwild: fixed

Artful Dodger: Thanks for posting those.... I was worried that I was going to have to waste my time looking for that stuff myself.

Anyway, i have yet to hear someone like Usurper, who talks about examining the facts of a situation etc, ever read stuff like what you have posted, then come back and admit they were wrong

Czuch:  They just find another site that "refutes" the findings.   How many men were involved in Watergate?  Just a few.  And they couldn't keep their mouths shut as they ratted each other out.  So now we are to believe that a major conspiracy involving perhaps hundreds of participants has succeeded in doing the impossible.  When something happens in my classroom and I want to know who did it, I know that everyone will rat out the offender.  And once the offender is ratted out, he will tell all he knows about others.  He's not going down alone.  That scenerio is far more believable than a host of offenders keeping themselves collectively quiet about their crimes. 

Artful Dodger:you also have to wonder...why clinton didnt pull the trigger on bin laden when he had him in his sights....or how these kamakazee pilots could train in florida, completely undetected? 

Bwild:  Clinton blundered and the US is mistaken to let aliens into our country unabated.  The system allows for aliens to attend our colleges and train in our other institutions.  We believe in "freedom" but officials seem to have forgotten the lesson of the Trojan horse.   Not only do we let the horse in, we built it in the first place.  Time to burn that thing to the ground. 

England has a huge Muslim problem.   America will too if it doesn't wise up.  Some people want to enter our country not for the freedoms we offer, but they mean to do us harm. 

Artful Dodger: It is the same in Canada & other country's.911 had a big effect on the whole world.