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4. Março 2009, 06:41:37 4. Março 2009, 07:03:46 Assunto: Re: "All Israel - But No Palestinian - Leaders Want to End the Conflict" Artful Dodger: This article (in your link) is written by Barry Rubens, a professor in Herzliya, Israel. He is American in nationality & Jewish in ancestry. Some might consider those affiliations cause for bias, and his sweeping statements therefore to be taken with a grain of salt. 4. Março 2009, 07:09:19 Assunto: Re: "All Israel - But No Palestinian - Leaders Want to End the Conflict"  The Usurper:Not so. It's a logical fallacy to "take with a grain of salt" historical facts simply because they are reported by someone who shares ancestry with the land he is reporting on. You can't just wipe them out because the person reporting is Jewish. His Jewishness doesn't preclude truth telling. 4. Março 2009, 07:14:58 Assunto: Re: "His Jewishness doesn't preclude truth telling." Artful Dodger: It certainly doesn't. But it does raise the odds that he is playing funny with the "facts." It is logical to take this into consideration. 4. Março 2009, 07:21:01 Assunto: Re: "His Jewishness doesn't preclude truth telling." The Usurper:It is logical to keep it in mind but it doesn't necessarily "raise the odds" as his information can easily be checked out. If what you say is true, then no news source is trustworthy as all of us, no matter what we claim to the contrary, have a bias. I am biased toward the conservative view. But if I report on something the Democrats said or did, the fact that I favor conservatism doesn't preclude my truth telling with regard to my reporting. You commit a logical fallacy when you paint the report because of the source. The source MAY be relevant to the criticism, but it doesn't simply follow that since the reporter is close to the story then the story must be taken with a grain of salt.  I do get your point but I'm still right.  4. Março 2009, 07:12:42 Assunto: Re: "All Israel - But No Palestinian - Leaders Want to End the Conflict" The Usurper:What you can do is show where the Palestinians have put forth real and consistent effort at peace. Rather than try to refute everything I offer, show some positive proof. And BTW, wikipedia isn't a reliable source. Even I can contribute to articles there. It's not a scholarly deposit of information. It's a collection of information from anyone who cares to add to the lot. Sure there are safeguards, but it's the internet and I went to the link and was able to edit some of the information. So how reliable is that source? |
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