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29. Setembro 2004, 08:35:53
redsales 
Assunto: Re:
heh..i moved.

Did someone delete some posts between Ed's? This thread doesn't make sense at all.

29. Setembro 2004, 07:50:46
Grim Reaper 
So much for being on topic. Geez what I am doing up at 2 AM?

29. Setembro 2004, 07:49:43
ScarletRose 
Is that a muscle I see? LOL

*slowly removes hands from ears.. Awww no yelling.. that is a good sign..*

29. Setembro 2004, 07:47:31
Grim Reaper 
*flexes*

:)

29. Setembro 2004, 07:45:31
ScarletRose 
Assunto: Re:
*ahem*.. now.. well.. UUUmmm.. OOO.. well.. Okay.. with all due respect there Ed.. beings that you are a chess player.. and are intelligent.. and you come accross sometimes in an intimidating way.. *cough*..

One might just think that you looked all businessy and geekish..

I see that I was incorrect about my assumption..

*covers ears with hands*

29. Setembro 2004, 07:42:25
Grim Reaper 
Darn, where is redsales? I thought we could finish our Chinese Water Torture, I mean Rook and Pawn ending :)

29. Setembro 2004, 07:40:09
Grim Reaper 
Assumption about what exactly?

29. Setembro 2004, 07:37:52
ScarletRose 
Assunto: Re: Well.. perhaps..
but, I see now my assumption was wrong..

*bites lower lip*

29. Setembro 2004, 07:36:56
ScarletRose 
Assunto: Re: Oh.. well I must admitt..
What??? *looks all innocent*

29. Setembro 2004, 07:36:41
Grim Reaper 
Dark rimmed glasses, oh boy. That is the textbook definition of a geek, isn't it?

29. Setembro 2004, 07:35:59
bwildman 
Assunto: Re: Oh.. well I must admitt..
p l e a s e.

29. Setembro 2004, 07:33:02
bwildman 
you need one of those "Willy Nelson hats with the braids!! LOL:) in case of a bad hair day!

29. Setembro 2004, 07:32:16
ScarletRose 
Assunto: Oh.. well I must admitt..
I expected to see a man who was all business like wearing dark rimmed glasses and having a pencil stuck behind his ear.. But, you seem far from that.. You actually are a nice looking man there Trice..

Wow.. Still shaking head in shock!

Thanks for sharin.. ;)

*smears more lip gloss on*..

29. Setembro 2004, 07:27:02
Grim Reaper 
Well, Robin Roberts is the person behind me wearing the cap. That was taken on September 28, 2003, the last day the Philadelphia Phillies' played at Veteran's Stadium before they knocked it down.

29. Setembro 2004, 07:22:54
ScarletRose 
Assunto: Re: UMmmmmmmmmmmmm Thankies..
*big smile*..

So who is that guy with the cap on?? Is that YOU??

29. Setembro 2004, 07:15:30
Grim Reaper 
Well, here is a link showing me, ChessCarpenter, and Gil Dodgen, my partner who made Gothic Vortex with me.

GCF dudes

I am revamping the website, none of the other links are really hooked up yet.

29. Setembro 2004, 07:12:25
ScarletRose 
Assunto: Re: *pouty~pout*
AAaaawwww there are no piccies of the chess players in there..

29. Setembro 2004, 07:09:45
Grim Reaper 
Lip gloss, nice :)

29. Setembro 2004, 07:08:19
ScarletRose 
Assunto: Hey thanks Eddie :D
Takes out lip gloss and smooths it over lips..

*smootches lips together*..

Now.. let's go look and see what all I can learn! ;)

29. Setembro 2004, 07:00:03
Grim Reaper 
Or for an even more complex evaluation:

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/danheisman/Articles/evaluation_of_material_imbalance.htm

click here

29. Setembro 2004, 02:14:28
Grim Reaper 
Assunto: For a discussion of piece values...
See http://www.gothicchess.org/piece_values.html or click here

29. Setembro 2004, 01:49:36
BuilderQ 
Assunto: Position of knights
I sometimes thought the knights were too far from the center in Gothic, but in Grotesque they look too close. Where would they develop to? Not in front of the center pawns, surely? But if they go the other way they seem to hinder development of the bishops.

28. Setembro 2004, 20:11:02
Thad 
Assunto: This board
Aloha all,

It seems like this board is getting a little out of control, or maybe I'm just reading some posts wrong. I certainly don't see a new to ban anyone, but since I'm new at ths position, I thought I'd ask anyone else out there who wishes to express their opinion about any of the recent posts to PM me. This board belongs to us all (everyone who reads it), so I'll try to moderate it (along with the other mods.) as best as I can for the audience. If people prefer to see all kinds of rhetoric, we can allow those kind of posts, or if people prefer a cleaner board, we can work toward that too. Just looking for some input/feedback. My door is always open.

Thanks,
Thad

28. Setembro 2004, 19:20:44
ScarletRose 
Assunto: Re: power..
B.. I was being sarcastic..

Even in regular chess.. the Queen is a strong one.. the king.. so limited yet the main focus of capture..

In Gothic.. the archbishop and Chancelor are rather strong players.. Just as the Queen is.. Although, I still prefer to save my Queen due to her unlimited straight and diagonal moves..

This is just my opinion though.. for I am no master player.. nor do I have time to really sit and study chess or the variants soley.. I just play for fun.. '

28. Setembro 2004, 17:04:32
ughaibu 
Assunto: Gothic
I think he was saying you're a first rate prat.

28. Setembro 2004, 16:54:41
Grim Reaper 
Assunto: Grotesque Chess Changed
Modificado por Grim Reaper (28. Setembro 2004, 17:06:37)
If you go to http://www.chessvariants.org/large.dir/grotesque.

html or click here you will see there is no mention of Gothic Chess or my name anywhere on the "Grotesque Chess" page.

So, Purple, what were you saying?

He was given the option to remove the slander, remove all mention of circumventing my patent, remove "gothic chess", all 15 instances, get it done by noon (giving him 3 hours) or he would come to court and be judged.

Looks like this person was the "genius" Purple, because anyone who enters a courtroom with me is stupid.

You think I always win at Gothic Chess? Try me in the legal system. I am a "Grandmaster".

28. Setembro 2004, 16:53:31
bwildman 
Assunto: Re: power..
so,your saying the king,queen combination is greater than the king,archbishop,and chancelor combination?

28. Setembro 2004, 16:39:03
ScarletRose 
Assunto: Re: power..
The Queen is B.. She always is.. :)

and no.. the archi guy.. or chance cannot prevail without her..


The powers of a woman.. *Giggle*

28. Setembro 2004, 16:29:28
bwildman 
Assunto: power..
I'm trying to decide which is more valuable. a queen vs chancelor,or maybe archbishop? or can the 2(archbishop/chancelor) prevail without a queen?

28. Setembro 2004, 16:23:00
Purple 
Assunto: Re:
Not sick enough :)

28. Setembro 2004, 16:18:41
bwildman 
I'm going to be sick!

28. Setembro 2004, 16:16:28
Purple 
Assunto: Re: Purple
Ed is a near genius who has fallen into the trap of continually doublng his bets trying to get even. Even if all the bluster were to come true it would endear him to nobody but, unlike me, he can't seem to change his ways. LOL.

28. Setembro 2004, 16:01:24
ughaibu 
Assunto: Purple
How about a book on the accuracy of Gothic's predictions?

28. Setembro 2004, 15:53:57
Grim Reaper 
My attorneys are taking care of it all, that's what I pay them to do. Fergus, the author of the page, will be served with legal documents today, requesting his presence in a court in Philadelphia. His attorney will advise him to change the content of that web page drastically, or take it down altogether.

Keep watching that web page.

28. Setembro 2004, 13:43:42
Chessmaster1000 
Assunto: Michael Tal at Gothic Chess.........
If you wonder who would be the best player at Gothic Chess the answer is simple: MICHAEL TAL!

If G.Kasparov, R.Fischer or J.R.Capablanca would have a 2800 at Gothic Chess then it is sure that M.Tal would definitely have a 3200!

Since Gothic Chess offers 3 major pieces,2 rooks and 4 other minor pieces, the attackes and sacrifices are endless. They happen 4-5 times more frequently that Chess. I'm too dissapointed that M.TAl isn't here. He would have shown us millions of beautiful attacks and startling sacrifices. I doubt that he would lose one single game. The man was sacrificing material everytime at Chess. At Gothic Chess would be the worst nightmare of any player.

28. Setembro 2004, 13:33:18
Chessmaster1000 
I really don't like these kind of wars about Gothic Chess. It seems people don't like the idea of patening a game. Neither i, but a law is a law and we have to support the laws in order to have a balance and some peace in our life.

As for this new variation of Grotesque Chess, i don't think it violates the patent at all. Also i don't find anything bad that could be used as an accusation for the Chessvariants site. Perhaps is just me, as i doesn't care about any accusations.

But really, why people should always have to argue and fight about something. Why they can't agree?

Unfortunately these kind of disagreements don't promote Gothic Chess and it's really a shame as this game deserves to become as popular as Chess.

28. Setembro 2004, 09:07:35
ughaibu 
Is it a talking site?

28. Setembro 2004, 08:47:46
Grim Reaper 
Assunto: Re:
This is not about the patent, it is about slander.

My name is "all over" that page like I am 'the bad guy'. I offered them a license for $1 per year, and they invented some fictional account of their own persecution.

Attorneys loves cases like this, because they are so easy to win, and the offenders will lose so much money.

28. Setembro 2004, 08:17:11
Caissus 
Assunto: Re: With full due respect..
I think you can ,but is not the same,Scarlett. If you read the site exactly you can see that there are different similar variants before GC was patented.Moreover the laws indeed are different in other countries.

28. Setembro 2004, 07:56:07
ScarletRose 
Assunto: With full due respect..
Does this mean I can write a story and just change the wittle words.. (but, not change the meaning or the plot of it).. and not be sued. Cause I would think it is the same thing.. Or are laws different in other countries?

28. Setembro 2004, 07:51:00
Fencer 
EdTrice: With full respect to your patent, I seriously doubt you can win such a lawsuit.

28. Setembro 2004, 07:02:19
ughaibu 
And I can see what so enraptures you about "free money".

28. Setembro 2004, 06:13:15
Grim Reaper 
Yeah, the licensing fee was $1 per year. I can see why they are so upset.

28. Setembro 2004, 05:53:57
ughaibu 
Thanks Caissus, that certainly knocks any further crap about licencing fees on the head.

28. Setembro 2004, 03:57:35
Grim Reaper 
Thanks, I will sue that site for slander/libel. Typical awards for this type of abuse net plaintiffs about $100,000 or more.

Thanks! Woo hoo! More free money for me!

27. Setembro 2004, 23:42:00
Caissus 
Assunto: Grotesque Chess
the unpatented alternative to Gothic Chess at "Chessvariants.com".Here is the link

27. Setembro 2004, 20:45:05
bwildman 
I think I am.

27. Setembro 2004, 20:05:27
ChessCarpenter 
Assunto: BrainKing Gothic Chess Championship
Who here is a section or tournament winner of the BrainKing Gothic Chess Championship?

26. Setembro 2004, 06:43:43
ScarletRose 
Assunto: Re: Thankies.. you two..
I really do appreciate all your help! ;)

26. Setembro 2004, 05:50:44
Grim Reaper 
1. Convert your a.u. distances to meters.
2. Convert your orbital duration into seconds, mindful that 24x60x60 = 86400 seconds per day.
3. T squared (in seconds) over R cubed (in meters) is your answer for the mass.

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