I got a good question for ya'll. My system refuses (yes, REFUSES) to remove MSN Messenger from the 'add/remove software'. It seems to have been installed when I installed Windows XP Pro. I have a little applet called Starup Control Panel 2.8, by Mike Lin, that I use to control what starts up. I will remove MSN Messenger so it won't auto start, but after 2 reboots, its back again! If it didn't keep starting up at reboot, I wouldn't care that its on my pc.