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5. Kasım 2009, 17:28:45
SL-Bosse 
Konu: Next Tournament?

It's nice to see that it starts to be a discussion on this board. The level of the discussion is a nice mix of jokes, hints and other stuff. It's starts to look how it was in IYT in the old days.


I think it is to early to start up an "official" Sabotage Leauge-tournament. I think we should wait until January/February. Or at least the "Small Fast #1" should be finished. Or what do You think?


5. Kasım 2009, 17:30:41
dAGGER 
Konu: Re: Next Tournament?
SL-Bosse:
I look forward to a new league event, as I'm already out of the current ones!
:-)

5. Kasım 2009, 17:35:40
SL-Bosse 
Konu: Re: Next Tournament?
dAGGER: But can you as a Pawn enter a new tournament before it is finished? Or is it only to ask Fencer to fix it if you are out from the tournament?

5. Kasım 2009, 17:44:25
happy hermit 
Konu: Re: Next Tournament?
SL-Bosse:

Has there been any discussion about holding a tournament outside the brainking tournament framework? I.e., the tournament pairings are posted elsewhere as we did in the past. This would be so 'pawns' are not excluded? .

5. Kasım 2009, 17:47:29
SL-Bosse 
Konu: Re: Next Tournament?

happy hermit: I don't think so. But it can be an good idea. But then we need someone to administrate it.


Just another question: As a "Pawn" you can not be member of a Fellowship? Or?


 


5. Kasım 2009, 18:27:45
Chaos 
Konu: Re: Next Tournament?
SL-Bosse: "I think it is to early to start up an "official" Sabotage Leauge-tournament. I think we should wait until January/February. Or at least the "Small Fast #1" should be finished. Or what do You think?"

 

You mean to say Small fast #1 and Open Fast #1 are not official ?  Just when I made it to the second round after sleepless nights with questionmarks haunting me...

 

Ok, now serious, I agree the pawns should be able to enter every tournament. it's just soooo much trouble to get a tournament going outside the framework. The BrainKing framework is perfect. I've organised several tournament when we were still at IYT and it really is a lot of work. It's more than administration. Players have to be seeded, there has to be checked whether the games have started, whether games have ended, what the outcome is etc etc. Players even forget a game is a tournament game.

5. Kasım 2009, 18:36:58
SL-Bosse 
Konu: Re: Next Tournament?
SL-Bosse (6. Kasım 2009, 11:46:11) tarafından düzenlendi

Chaos: It should have been  "I think it is to early to start up next "official" Sabotage Leauge-tournament"


It should be intresting to know how many players are reading this Board, and not writing anything. So everyone who is reading, but not writing. Just give a sign here or by an PM.


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  1. Chaos
  2. SL-Mark
  3. Styleone
  4. happy hermit
  5. daGGER
  6. CelticJim
  7. SL_GentleKiller
  8. Nothingness
  9. Sir Lance-a-lot
  10. SL-Bosse
  11. rod03801
  12. redfrog
  13. Dark Prince
  14. Pedro Martinez
  15. lukulus
  16. Vikings
  17. Sandoz
  18. Resher
  19. Tian-Xian
  20. </ol>

6. Kasım 2009, 03:12:21
Dark Prince 
Konu: Re: Reading...
SL-Bosse:
The message board feature and rating system are attractive to me here, but I can't say I care much for the game graphics or rule nuances.

6. Kasım 2009, 09:22:01
lukulus 
Konu: Re: Reading...
Dark Prince: I agree with graphic, but dont agree with rule nuances. Such nuance can win a game.

6. Kasım 2009, 17:49:32
Dark Prince 
Konu: Re: Rule Nuances
lukulus:
I was stating personal preferences.
Whether here or at IYT, the nuances can be used to acquire advantages and win games.
Viewing previous moves here is much more cumbersome than at IYT, and the private notes disappear here when viewing any previous move.

6. Kasım 2009, 17:58:05
happy hermit 
Konu: Re: Rule Nuances
Dark Prince:

For viewing previous moves I open a second tab or window to do so. That way I can still move directly on one board without extra clicks. I don't keep notes in the browser but the second window would solve that as well.

6. Kasım 2009, 11:11:15
Resher 
Konu: Re: Next Tournament?
SL-Bosse: I also read this board, but am waiting until my total number of games is more under control before joining in these espionage games more

6. Kasım 2009, 11:36:37
Chaos 
Konu: Re: Next Tournament?
Resher: Welcome on board! :) Hope to see you join the next tournament.

5. Kasım 2009, 18:52:49
happy hermit 
Konu: Re: Next Tournament?
Chaos:

It could be a hybrid tournament. I.e., set up single section tournaments on BK for those that have a free tournament slot (all non-pawns, pawns not in any other tournaments) and group the other pawns in section(s) outside the brainking framework.

This lets everyone play, plus we can start the second round as soon as the first is decided and don't have to wait on everyone of Mark's 200 move games.

6. Kasım 2009, 11:46:00
Chaos 
Konu: Re: Next Tournament?
happy hermit: 'It could be a hybrid tournament. I.e., set up single section tournaments on BK for those that have a free tournament slot (all non-pawns, pawns not in any other tournaments) and group the other pawns in section(s) outside the brainking framework.'
This is still a lot of work, because the organisor of the tournament will have to check on the single section tournaments and all the individual pawn games. If  we grow bigger there will be several rounds afterwards. All individual games will have to be checked in those.

Plus it will be strange to have the pawns always playing against pawns in the first round. This will likely give uneven sections in numbers and skills.

6. Kasım 2009, 13:58:47
happy hermit 
Konu: Re: Next Tournament?
Chaos:
I agree it's sub-optimal, but I can't think of an option that is better. :)

6. Kasım 2009, 14:08:14
dAGGER 
Konu: Re: Next Tournament?
happy hermit:
I agree a Hybrid tournament is still a big job for the volunteer administrator.
As a brain pawn, if I can't join next League event, I will pay for 3 months or give it up!

6. Kasım 2009, 14:32:49
lukulus 
Konu: Re: Next Tournament?
dAGGER: try six month rook Its not so expensive. As knight or bishop you cant play two tournaments in same game in same time.

6. Kasım 2009, 15:04:29
happy hermit 
Konu: Re: Next Tournament?
dAGGER:

Perhaps we can delegate some of the duties in a hybrid tournament? Perhaps have a player in each of the the 'pawn sections' responsible for reporting the results?

A full tournament can last two years (10 years if we play a volcano variant and dAGGER and Mark are in the same section) and that's a lot of time to be limited from playing in other events if you are a pawn.

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