Artful Dodger: and now, the rest of the story..........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8VY2PHgOeE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arertPMsOnQ&feature=related

Jim Dandy: So.. the right wing orgs (fox and internet) lied.

And I thought (so some right wingers here have said) fox was a unbiased new org.

(V): They'll just change the spin, as they did at the end of the clip.Now it's not about the misrepresentation of the woman, it's about the administration buying their lies

Jim Dandy:  The left spins it all day.  If it wasn't for Fox, many stories that reveal the troubling truths about legislation coming from the Obama administration would never see the light of day.

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Jim Dandy: And if they deny it.. they get accused of a liberal/government cover up.

(V): I stand in awe of the Republican/Fox propoganda machine.Nobody does it better, not even close

Jim Dandy: They have the advantage of being able to play on cold war propaganda... socialism, communism, liberalism, etc.. left is bad..

Guess the fear of a stupid WMD war being started by someone (left or right) left it's mark. So did the 331 nuclear weapons tests by the USA.. much of it just boys playing with their toys.

(V): True, they are masters at exploiting the "bogymen",and playing on fear.How they get away on maintaining the mantle of cutting spending I'll never know.The deficit shot up bigtime when St Ronny got in after Carter,and did the same after GW took over from Clinton..........They are very disiplined at staying on messege though, a fine tuned machine.

Jim Dandy: you ignore the Journolist

Jim Dandy: Because it's always military spending that goes up. Wars.. star wars projects, etc, etc.

But to spend on helping the people of the USA or it's infrastructure.. that's a sin for some reason. That under Bush the deficit sky rocketed and to bring that spending under control regardless of what is needed to stop the high probability of a total economic collapse.. is going to affect the books.

As to putting money into the economy is a waste... I saw a business just about to under on a prog. It needed just some new machinery. One gut saw the potential and invested... The business is great and the bloke is making a nice bit from the investment.

Jim Dandy:  Rachel Maddow?  If she leaned any further left she'd fall over.     Typical reply from the left.  The fact that the White House threw her under the bus isn't newsworthy?  That BAD on the WH.  

Artful Dodger: Fox wasn't "knee jerk" in their initial reporting of an edited speech?

I think Maddow broke it down well,typical Fox

Jim Dandy: I'm not concerned with Fox. I'm more concerned with the WH and the dishonest NAACP.

Artful Dodger:Andrew Brietbart, in cahoots with Fox created this mess,they along with the WH owe this woman,and the farmer an apology.The NAACP have already done so.Fox wil just keep spinning along.Instead of her speech being about her wonderful epiphony, they edited it into the gutter

Jim Dandy: False. they did NOT edit it and that is an indisputable fact. You don't even know where that video came from but it came edited like that. The video wasn't presented as a full video but as an edited one. And as of my last reading, they still don't know who edited it.

Artful Dodger: Brietbart and Fox should be ashamed of themselves for commenting on an edited video without knowing the complete story.When the true story came to light, they both should have apologised to the same degree that the performed the hatchet job on her

Artful Dodger: One minute you are quoting as you call it.. "left wing media" the next you are dissing someone of the "left wing media" for POINTING OUT that FOX LIED.

It's that Beck stirs up the extreme right wingers... the delusional ones that might start shooting. Some from Tea party events (practising their freedom of speech) have said.. "next time we will bring guns."

.. How does threatening violence count as democracy?