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5. Agosto 2011, 19:39:38
Mort 
Though the Science study’s authors cautioned against an overly broad interpretation of their findings, the results suggest that fear leads to political conservatism.

"Threatening situations do indeed seem to increase people’s affinity for politically conservative opinions, leaders, and parties," said New
York University psychologist John Jost.

Study co-author Kevin Smith, also a University of Nebraska political scientist, demurred at making such a connection. "Historically speaking, politicians have appealed to the ‘be afraid’ response in the electorate in an attempt to mine votes," he said. "But in terms of going from campaigning to what we did in the laboratory, that’s a large leap."

But even Smith agreed that "people with stronger responses are more sensitive to potential threats in their environment."

Asked whether the findings imply a fearmongering strategy for conservatives, New York University psychologist David Amodio responded, "Yes.
And some people believe that they are actively using this strategy."

The Bush administration has been accused of exploiting fears, though it’s hardly a new approach.

"The whole aim of practical politics," wrote journalist gadfly H.L. Mencken,
"is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins."

Jost condemned such tactics. "From an ethical standpoint, conservative campaigns should not exploit feelings of fear in the general population," he said.

Of course, ethics tend to be forgotten during election seasons.

5. Agosto 2011, 19:44:45
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Re: probably best to view the entire study rather than cherry pic

5. Agosto 2011, 22:21:01
Mort 
Argomento: Re: probably best to view the entire study rather than cherry pic
Artful Dodger: didn't get it from there

Just a way to bring back to a point... Have not the Republicans and American Conservatives used scaremongering.

The answer is yes. Everyone gets scared, it's part of basic human biology. Interpretation of that feeling is always open to abuse.

5. Agosto 2011, 22:25:55
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Re: probably best to view the entire study rather than cherry pic
(V): doesn't matter where you got it, you still cherry picked

And you're not bringing it back to point, that never was a point. YOu strayed from the original point and inserted that.

That said, it's unlikely that any group has never used scare tactics at one time or another. Obama has mastered it and uses it regularly. I agree that Bush used it as well. But he's not in office. So that point is meaningless.

5. Agosto 2011, 22:34:58
Mort 
Argomento: Re: probably best to view the entire study rather than cherry pic
Artful Dodger: ??? The original point??? .... is it original.

As to Bush not being in office. Pu -- lease.. I said Republicans and Conservatives. As the matter of the use of fear by whomever is not a new thing. McCarthy did it.. Raygun did it... The KKK do it.

History did not start in 2008... *hint* the year marker!!

5. Agosto 2011, 22:40:48
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Re:Wrong Jules, you went from the use of sarcasm, to fear tactics. Very
The original post is below. The point here (made sarcastically) is that Obama is bragging about the "incredible strides" his administration has made. The author points out the huge deficit, and huge unemployment as hallmarks of Obama's policies. It's not meant as a fear tactic, it was meant to make fun of "The Great One."



(V): This man is pathetic.
In a speech at a campaign fundraiser Wednesday night (August 3, 2011), president Obama said "...we have made some incredible strides together" but "...we're not even halfway there yet". Excuse me! Half way to where? Where are we going? Do we have to go? Or are you going to drag us kicking and screaming by the scruffs of our necks?

Do you mean you will take us to 18% unemployment instead of the current 9%, $28 trillion in debt instead of the current $14 trillion, $8 per gallon gasoline prices instead of $4? Will taxes double?

No one can say we haven't been warned.

5. Agosto 2011, 22:45:39
Mort 
Argomento: Re:Wrong Jules, you went from the use of sarcasm, to fear tactics. Very
Artful Dodger: It's allll Obama's fault. Yes Dan.. Presidents speak that way... Raygun did when he announced SDI...

Or were you talking about the blogger going OTT??

6. Agosto 2011, 03:28:47
Papa Zoom 
Argomento: Re:Wrong Jules, you went from the use of sarcasm, to fear tactics. Very
Modificato da Papa Zoom (6. Agosto 2011, 03:31:34)
(V): The current mess is now Obama's problem and he's done plenty to exacerbate it. He blames others, but if things were going great, we all know The Great One would take credit. So he also should own plenty of blame for the horrible state of affairs. And his ideas are only going to make things worse. He's too stupid to know that.

6. Agosto 2011, 16:23:15
Mort 
Argomento: Re:The current mess is now Obama's problem and he's done plenty to exacerbate it.
Artful Dodger: The current mess? ... policies that were made 30 years ago affecting the US tax revenue was his decision? I agree Obama is now the figurehead, yet the problem lies within your political system.


"Many of these folks are in situations that warrant the help. Others are leeches. And there are plenty of those leeches around."

leeches come in all shapes and sizes, yes you get some who scrounge off the gov... some scrounge off the rich, or fair weather friends. Some marry into, some con. Then you have the rich who cheat the gov... I believe that figure is more significant in obtaining a balanced economy, as the amount lost is much more than the amount paid to those on the dole.

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